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    jerry is the nicnkname of my friend Jerry. Jerry is 25 years old and he is a computer programmer, but his degree is in Physics. Jerry is an alright guy. Thats what they named the cnas after, my friend Jerry
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubycalaber View Post
    here is when he starts talking about it if you would like to humiliate barry and not have to watch my 999999 minutes of walking sim footage: http://youtu.be/qE-8z5mRnts?t=10m47s
    yeah this is the same bullshit. your mac address is already exposed on the internet (unless you're NATed in which case they have your router's MAC address) and there's no way for someone to find you via your MAC address

    and yes you can still use a proxy you can also easily spoof your MAC address
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    good, I dont want the goverment spying on my mac and cheese

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    I use EZ MAC
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    I use MACintosh brand macaroni and cheese, I should ask barry if that will be secure with IP6

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    the biggest concern with ipv6 is it's the end of NAT

    so right now all the computers on your network are all on a LAN together, and when they go out to the internet they go throuh your router. the internet sees one connection from all of them, your router's connection, and if you want to run a game server or something you have to set up port forwarding. It's pretty easy to keep your shit isolated.

    With IPv6 every device is connected directly to the internet. They still go through your router/modem, but they each have their own publicly accessible address. Rubynet will know if I'm connecting from my laptop or my desktop or my phone connected to wifi. So suddenly it matters if you have the windows firewall enabled, etc. It's going to be a security nightmare for people who don't know what they're doing. It's going to make thins easier for people like flaggercat, though, if you want a new IP address just buy a $10 network card from newegg and slap that fucker in your machine.
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    and when will this be implemented? dont think we have to worry about flag specifically since he will have been dead from old age for a few years by the time this comes out

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    Its been implemented for years but nobody uses it yet lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubycalaber View Post
    and when will this be implemented? dont think we have to worry about flag specifically since he will have been dead from old age for a few years by the time this comes out
    it's tough to say, every year since like 2001 has been "the year of ipv6". windows servers use it pretty extensively to talk to workstations on the same LAN (you can fuck shit up by turning off the ipv6 tun adapter) and in fact your win 7 machine already has an ipv6 address it gave itself but as for when it hits the internet that's up to the ISPs
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    yeah this is the same bullshit. your mac address is already exposed on the internet (unless you're NATed in which case they have your router's MAC address) and there's no way for someone to find you via your MAC address

    and yes you can still use a proxy you can also easily spoof your MAC address
    i don't know what you're talking about either

    ethernet addresses get stripped right off the frame between each physical hop no matter what it is

    and on the NIC they're stored in EEPROM so you can change it anytime you like, if you're interested in doing that kind of thing
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    I turned off the firewall on my router because second life was taking too long to load now it loads instantly but fucking a couple games like warframe are still talking about a NAT bullshit even though they're allowed through windows firewall so what the fuck are they complaining about
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon View Post
    i don't know what you're talking about either

    ethernet addresses get stripped right off the frame between each physical hop no matter what it is

    and on the NIC they're stored in EEPROM so you can change it anytime you like, if you're interested in doing that kind of thing
    nmap -sP -n {ip address}
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    I even tried opening the ports for warframe and it still did it maybe it's just because it's in beta and it literally just says that error every time just to say it
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    and you can't prevent someone from using NAT just because their peer is ipv6-only
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    did that from memory might not be the right command but you get my point
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon View Post
    and you can't prevent someone from using NAT just because their peer is ipv6-only
    that's true but in an ipv6 world nat is unnecessary for most people so it won't be confiured by default so it's going to be an extra step to set up which no one will actually do
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    well the end of something would be banning or prohibiting it for some reason

    public addressible devices in a home is not more desireable than NAT, so NAT will stick around
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    nmap -sP -n {ip address}
    -sP: Ping Scan - go no further than determining if host is online
    -n/-R: Never do DNS resolution/Always resolve [default: sometimes]

    jon@pronbox:~$ nmap -sP -n wroth.org

    Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2013-07-28 17:02 CDT
    Host 64.62.205.225 is up (0.054s latency).
    Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.15 seconds
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon View Post
    well the end of something would be banning or prohibiting it for some reason

    public addressible devices in a home is not more desireable than NAT, so NAT will stick around
    I disagree, I think the ISPs will configure their devices in the simplest way possible, and if you do a quick wardrive a good 75% of people are using ISP provided devices running the default config

    I'm not passionate enough that I want to argue about it though, I guess we'll see in 20 years when ipv6 finally gets deployed to everyone
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    you're thinking of

    -S <IP_Address>: Spoof source address
    --spoof-mac <mac address/prefix/vendor name>: Spoof your MAC address

    but i'm not sure why since this tells nmap to write the layer 2 frame itself

    which goes to the next physical hop, no matter what it is, where it is changed for a subsequent hop
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    Hello, computer worker guy here
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    the only real world device that does not make a physical hop is a hub and nobody makes or uses those anymore, or a switch which just puts the signal on the right port given the frame header
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    I have so many usb 3.0 ports
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon View Post
    you're thinking of

    -S <IP_Address>: Spoof source address
    --spoof-mac <mac address/prefix/vendor name>: Spoof your MAC address

    but i'm not sure why since this tells nmap to write the layer 2 frame itself

    which goes to the next physical hop, no matter what it is, where it is changed for a subsequent hop
    I spent like 10 minutes trying to get the MAC address of rubycalaber.com and it turns out you're right. I'm not sure where I got the impression you can do this (maybe I was scanning a public IP via the loopback from within the same network?) but I concede defeat and admit that I should have known better.

    I still believe that the MAC address is no big deal though and think barry is dumb to be worried about it, we both agree that MAC addresses are easy enough to spoof or change and it's not like anyone is keeping a database of who owns what device.
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    wtf stop hacking my site m8

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    rubycalaber.com's MAC address: 4815162342

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    am I safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubycalaber View Post
    wtf stop hacking my site m8
    the same box hosting your website has pop3 and imap enabled, can I have a @rubycalaber.com email address?
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    uh............................................. are you going to trade cp with it?

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    no I'm never even going to use it I just want to brag about having one
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