View Full Version : Bush was horrible, but Gore would have been worse
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 04:17 PM
The tester of a hypothesis can sway the outcome by including or excluding certain criteria; if a person has the will, they can bend what seems to be science to fit any agenda they please.
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Is global warming really happening? Or is it a shot by the government at global governance? If you can tax industries for something they all have, CO2 emissions, you rule the world.
Are we sure that our CO2 emissions are causing a man-made shift in climate? Higher CO2 levels also causes plant-life to flourish, which in turn leads to higher levels of oxygen.
How much of that carbon in the ancient sea-life deposits in the Earth's crust constitutes all the carbon that was at one point a part of our atmosphere?
If you dig for references to the claims, there really aren't any. Just poorly conducted studies with wide gaps left in them teeming with human error. But because the ones conducting the studies desire to show evidence for global warming, they aren't as picky for finding information that doesn't fit their agenda.
How many studies conducted go into overwhelming detail on how they gathered their data, what equipment they used to gather their data, how they ruled out variables, etc? I can't find any but if you can please post it
Global warming was like the big finale grand attempt of the liberals to once and for all prove conservatives as morally deficient (talk about projection).
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 04:27 PM
Think about it like this: one of the main reasons colossal animals like dinosaurs were able to exist back in the day but not now is because the oxygen levels in our atmosphere were higher, which was required for the muscles of those large animals. When oxygen levels dropped over time, large animals became too sluggish for their size and died off.
By pumping all the crap that used to be in our atmosphere back into it, we set our atmosphere back to dinosaur times, which you could almost think of as healthy for living things in an abstract way.
Even if we lose florida and the netherlands we were going to lose them anyways because CO2 levels would still be rising naturally anyways
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 04:29 PM
The idea of "climate change" being man-made from CO2 emissions is just way too coincidentally convenient for socialistic liberal politicians with aspirations of world domination
Gentleman Doli
07-23-2013, 04:33 PM
Adolf Hitler was actually really good
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 04:33 PM
pretty sure its a jew plot to sell more expensive "energy saving" light bulbs
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 04:34 PM
Adolf Hitler was actually really good
hitlers germany was the first country to have environmentalist laws and to make vivisection of animals illegal, he actually cared about nature unlike people like Gore who just want political leverage
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 04:35 PM
he also painted cute puppy pictures
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 04:39 PM
The media is the one telling us about these studies which support global warming; they're also extremely liberal and agenda-driven. Where are the studies conducted by people without any political affiliations? Studies conducted by people without even a subconscious desire to make a case one way or the other?
Camoron
07-23-2013, 04:41 PM
Heh.
timmy
07-23-2013, 04:42 PM
i fell off my bike once
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 04:44 PM
Adolf Hitler was actually really good
Exterminating innocent people is not good. He was a meth addict, he was paranoid; the idea of evolution and genetics was still new, and for a delusional meth addict with too much pride, that opens up a lot of options for being able to point fingers at people and invent problems that don't actually exist.
Hitler wanted to get into a school. The school was owned and run by Jews. His application was declined. Throw in meth and darwin and a nation with an economy that is completely collapsed from a world war, and you've got the Nazi regime
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 04:46 PM
Hitler's ranting about Jewish people being some amazingly deceptive and manipulative people by genetic nature is textbook stimulant-induced paranoia.
One of my best friends is Jewish, he's really smart, and he actually seems a lot less manipulative than your average person because only stupid people need to manipulate others.
Camoron
07-23-2013, 04:47 PM
:rofl: Plug Drugs chastising Hitler for being a meth addict of all things.
steveyos
07-23-2013, 04:47 PM
you're an idiot if you think we're not killing the earth because name one previous time when there was a bunch of machines burning toxic shit on modern day levels
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 04:48 PM
I'd be addicted to meth too if I had to deal with jews, thankfully there are like 15 jews total in scotland
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 04:50 PM
you're an idiot if you think we're not killing the earth because name one previous time when there was a bunch of machines burning toxic shit on modern day levels
this is why I am going to let my alienware become self aware from bluescreening so much and exterminate the human race
Camoron
07-23-2013, 04:52 PM
you're an idiot if you think we're not killing the earth because name one previous time when there was a bunch of machines burning toxic shit on modern day levels
We've pumped millions of years' worth of naturally collected carbon back into the atmosphere in a matter of 150 years. Perhaps Plug Drugs should go to college and take an Environmental Science class so he can understand the natural carbon cycle, because it really is pretty obvious.
timmy
07-23-2013, 04:54 PM
:rofl: Plug Drugs chastising Hitler for being a meth addict of all things.
its like monde dissing someone fort being divorfdec
Camoron
07-23-2013, 04:56 PM
It's like m0nde chastising Mao Zedong for being fat.
always stevey
07-23-2013, 05:00 PM
Monde sucks. lol
Camoron
07-23-2013, 05:00 PM
It's like m0nde chastising Stalin for being a horrible person.
Camoron
07-23-2013, 05:01 PM
Because m0nde is the worst person to ever live.
Camoron
07-23-2013, 05:01 PM
Metaphorically speaking.
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 05:19 PM
metaphorically cat speaking
hitlers germany was the first country to have environmentalist laws and to make vivisection of animals illegal, he actually cared about nature unlike people like Gore who just want political leverage
it's not political leverage, gore has no interest in politics anymore. since he left office he has made $100 million investing in green energy companies.
timmy
07-23-2013, 05:21 PM
locking a 5 year old in a room with monde is like throwing a baby goat to a pack of lions
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Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 05:32 PM
:rofl: Plug Drugs chastising Hitler for being a meth addict of all things.
I wouldn't trust anyone on amphetamine to run a country or be officially in charge of other people whatsoever..
They may make good mathematicians, philosophers, writers, musicians, and chemists, but they don't make good politicians.
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 05:37 PM
it's not political leverage, gore has no interest in politics anymore. since he left office he has made $100 million investing in green energy companies.
in that movie "an extremely convenient lie" err i mean "an inconvenient truth", his accent changes depending on what emotion he was trying to evoke. When he was talking about some bird going extinct, he suddenly had a southern accent, and was speaking slowly like he was gonna cry awww it makes me feel so sad when southerners feel sad about something since they don't normally ever feel empathy ever this makes me trust the dude with the southern accent
then as soon as he brings up a graph or any sort of factoid, his southern accent completely disappears and suddenly his voice is crisp and clear and precise
He's an actor. He's a big faker.
Evidence that all he cares about is money is, like you said, totally abandoning politics to make money
always stevey
07-23-2013, 05:38 PM
I'm having a panic attack
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Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 05:45 PM
Don't you guys think we are getting to a point in the economy where we're just inventing jobs? There's no industry left, I mean there is, but who has a real job anymore? Are people still out there harvesting raw resources to make tradeable goods with? Not in our country; we're just a country of consumers and that's a problem. Economics 101: a healthy economy results with a country that has more exports than imports.. at least that's what my economics teacher told me.
What raw resource have we got to trade anymore? Foreign resources are cheaper. All we have is our technology (a false scarcity) and our big ass military. It's safe to say that the capitalistic thirst of the traditional American working man has all but dissipated. People these days want to wear brand name clothes, listen to music for its image, and sit and watch rich people on TV and feel special and unique and above everyone else.
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 05:46 PM
Somedays I feel the need to move to canada and be a lumberjack or something
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Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 05:50 PM
There's too many people in this country too; I dare say parasitism is emerging in our species (perhaps not genetically but just sociologically) so that reproduction is the common person's only concern -- they think nothing of how to raise the child, they leave that up to the government.
We are burdened by people fucking too much. According to evolutionary psychology, the rate at which we reproduce is ultimately dependent on our access to food; if food is scarce, reproduction rates drop.
But now, people don't care about making healthy informed decisions, they simply feel that to not reproduce would be missing out, and vow to themselves they'll figure out the rest (like feeding the baby) as they go along; but they never do.
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Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 05:52 PM
Come up on your own soap box with me its fun, you know you want to man just give in and have a conversation
actual video of me walking away from this thread
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Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 05:58 PM
The single best solution to every problem is simply this: investing in education. The nation's investment in education will return to us exponentially.. push to make college free for everyone, have a team of experts put a library of accurate information one would normally obtain in college free to everyone on the internet. The information will be there for everyone when they want it, and college will be there as a sort of ticket of authenticity to show employers.
Putting people into insurmountable debt is what is killing this country more than anything. Just find a way to use however much funding it takes to make college free to everyone, and highly flexible. Let people change their major whenever they want; in doing so people won't be hesitant to find their true calling in life, and this will directly benefit our economy, as people with jobs will be doing jobs because they are good at them, and not because they have to do them.
This is the American Dream I don't know why this country let it die; you know what I think it is, it's because those who inherited the corporations have no fucking clue what they're doing, and since they hold all the cards, they can clog up the system any way they choose. They absolutely refuse to let their profit margin drop in the slightest, and in doing so degrade the quality of life for everyone.
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:01 PM
It is so simple. Cut the shit we don't need (like the monstrously high military budget) and just put some more fucking funding into education.
We have our priorities out of whack.. And if you think about it, investing in education will also help the cause of the military budget in that the nation will be more intelligent and therefore able to develop better more efficient weapons.
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:03 PM
We don't need to be able to cover the surface of the Earth in mushroom clouds to stay on top; such insanity "if we die EVERYBODY MUST DIE"
Then we need to be friends with Iran. It will be difficult, but I'm sure if we smuggle some shit like McDonalds and Jet skiis and other American paraphernalia into their country maybe it'll get to them
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 06:05 PM
There's too many people in this country too; I dare say parasitism is emerging in our species (perhaps not genetically but just sociologically) so that reproduction is the common person's only concern -- they think nothing of how to raise the child, they leave that up to the government.
We are burdened by people fucking too much. According to evolutionary psychology, the rate at which we reproduce is ultimately dependent on our access to food; if food is scarce, reproduction rates drop.
But now, people don't care about making healthy informed decisions, they simply feel that to not reproduce would be missing out, and vow to themselves they'll figure out the rest (like feeding the baby) as they go along; but they never do.
hitler knew how to deal with overpopulation and parasitic people :arms:
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:07 PM
we should propose a friendship tribute to Iran, like have some sort of cultural festival with them or something, I don't know..
Get all the world's leaders in a room together, give them all MDMA, and play journey don't stop believing or something on a loop for 4 hours
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 06:08 PM
I was looking forward to iran kicking off world war 3 but unfortunately A Mad Dinnerjacket's successor seems like a cool and moderate guy who just wants everyone to get along (so assassinated by the cia within the year then)
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 06:10 PM
all we know for certain about the CO2 level is that it currently exceeds the highest historical interglacial concentrations by about 33%
Today: 398ppm
http://co2now.org/
Historically: 180-300ppm
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.html
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:10 PM
hitler knew how to deal with overpopulation and parasitic people :arms:
It's an issue of education I think. If Hitler's solution was cutting everyone's balls off, that just shows his innate sadistic nature, and that he didn't actually care for the well-being of everyone (not that that even needs to be argued, really).
We are much more creative; there is something out there that everyone could probably agree upon, but can we stop enjoying hating each other long enough to just do it?
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:11 PM
all we know for certain about the CO2 level is that it currently exceeds the highest historical interglacial concentrations by about 33%
Today: 398ppm
http://co2now.org/
Historically: 180-300ppm
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.html
Doesn't that only chart back <100,000 years?
Also, do you think the readings could be wrong or swayed by agenda? Like, could our means of measuring CO2 levels historically be off, such that modern day CO2 levels seem to be exploding off the chart compared to the CO2 level increases of the past, when really its just because our measurements are off?
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 06:12 PM
hitler only had one ball and he turned out great so thats not too bad an idea
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:15 PM
What if there are ways of measuring that suggest the opposite, but because they're trying to make a political point, they picked the method of measurement which would support their hypothesis rather than using a different method of measurement?
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:15 PM
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Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:18 PM
I fear the only way I'm going to find the answers I'm looking for is by becoming a geologist and going through years of tedious bullshit just to be able to make the measurements myself. I also think that there's some backlash in the scientific community against anyone who sheds doubt on "climate change"; they don't speak up because they fear harsh criticism by their peers.
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 06:19 PM
also, the biomass of marine flora is believed to have increased four-fold over the past 150 years. so if we cut CO2 emissions too quickly then the plants would begin rapidly suffocating, and the combined effect on the oceanic carbon cycle would result in a large enough shock to atmospheric carbon to create a runaway global cooling that would make The Day After Tomorrow look like Winnie the Pooh's Blustery Day, by comparison... we'd be back to "snowball earth" within a decade, and this time it would likely last forever
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:21 PM
I was looking forward to iran kicking off world war 3 but unfortunately A Mad Dinnerjacket's successor seems like a cool and moderate guy who just wants everyone to get along (so assassinated by the cia within the year then)
World War 3 sounds like it could be fun but then I get honest with myself; I don't really want the world to end. I dream of it being like Mad Max when in reality it would probably just suck and not in any way resemble mad max or fallout
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:22 PM
"after world war 3 and the nuclear holocaust, you could, like, go to a store and just take whatever man" and millions of other survivors wouldnt try to do the same thing?
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:24 PM
Also I don't think a war against Iran is justified.. We're always poking them with a stick, like "hey iran, whatcha doin? woah that looks dangerous dont do that" and they're trying to be cool like "fuck off and leave us alone"
A WW3 against N Korea however, I'd want to fight in that, because N Korea's government is truly evil and crooked,
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 06:25 PM
Doesn't that only chart back <100,000 years?
Also, do you think the readings could be wrong or swayed by agenda? Like, could our means of measuring CO2 levels historically be off, such that modern day CO2 levels seem to be exploding off the chart compared to the CO2 level increases of the past, when really its just because our measurements are off?
400,000 years
the ice cores contain air, the air contains air, samples of both are analyzed the same way so that any scientific error will be proportionally rather than relative
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:26 PM
And Iran's military isn't fucking around. People think we'd just go in, blow up some huts like we did in Iraq and Afghan, and then sit their fiddling with our dicks waiting for us 'liberating' them to stabilize them.
The whole "stability" thing was bullshit; anyone have any idea how many Iraqi civilians we've killed since the start of the war? It's just un-fucking-real.. There's no way that sort of bloodshed was going to lead to stability, it just strengthened the grudge
but where was i, oh yeah Iran's military, it's not fucking around. It's a real military. As in, an air force and aircraft carriers, ballistic missiles, the whole 9.. Russia might step in and that would be a very very bad thing.. who knows how it might inspire other middle east nations? Would they end up pressing an attack on Israel? And Israel is insane in their own right, they outright admit "if you invade we'll just use nukes on you, we're that unreasonable"
The idea with nukes is supposed to be you don't ever want to use them, right? It's like taking your Queen out to the other side of the board on turn 2 in chess, it's just not the right thing to do it just escalated everything
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 06:27 PM
they don't speak up because they fear harsh criticism by their peers.
or they simply just don't have any new evidence to the contrary
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:34 PM
400,000 years
the ice cores contain air, the air contains air, samples of both are analyzed the same way so that any scientific error will be proportionally rather than relative
Hmm well I don't know honestly, but purely from using logic, we could suspect that analyzing an ice core compared to our current atmosphere might be like apples and oranges, the environment of an ice core might be subject to variables we aren't even aware of yet.
And 400,000 years isn't that long really, I think our planet is resilient enough to just shake it off.
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 06:35 PM
World War 3 sounds like it could be fun but then I get honest with myself; I don't really want the world to end. I dream of it being like Mad Max when in reality it would probably just suck and not in any way resemble mad max or fallout
I just want to look out the window and see people melting to death in the street and feel the warm embrace of radiation taking me next :emo:
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 06:36 PM
Also I don't think a war against Iran is justified.. We're always poking them with a stick, like "hey iran, whatcha doin? woah that looks dangerous dont do that" and they're trying to be cool like "fuck off and leave us alone"
A WW3 against N Korea however, I'd want to fight in that, because N Korea's government is truly evil and crooked,
N korea is like panto evil, everyone can tell, even their own people they try to brainwash, meanwhile everyone loves the actually dangerous governments who hurt a fuck load more people
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:37 PM
I've been under the belief for a long time that our planet is foolproof for the existence of humans, and that almost stems just from from existentialist speculation and an esoteric view on how our existence manifests.
But just things like how the Earth's crust is constantly renewing itself with new resources fresh out of the mantle, to me suggest that our planet is in a continuum, and pushing the envelope in one direction will cause a resistance which balances it out, I don't know.
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:38 PM
Basically I think that our mother Earth won't allow us to fuck it up irreparably
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:40 PM
N korea is like panto evil, everyone can tell, even their own people they try to brainwash, meanwhile everyone loves the actually dangerous governments who hurt a fuck load more people
That's true, but the ways we murder our own people are sincerely accidental, and much less obvious
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:41 PM
Like, our fat fucker food is killing more of us from diabetes and heart disease than N Korea's lack of food is killing them from starvation, totally ironic
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:43 PM
In a few hundred maybe few thousand years we'll evolve to stop eating ourselves to death, like our body will understand instinctively when the consumption of food has ceased to be beneficial and we'll stop being stupid
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 06:44 PM
pretty sure we invaded iraq and afghanistan on purpose but maybe bush was just reading his world map upside down which would make sense
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 06:44 PM
americans will never not be fat, in a million years time when aliens are digging up american fossils they will be like why are these ones so big bonned lmao
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:56 PM
have you ever had a panic attack cag
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:57 PM
pretty sure we invaded iraq and afghanistan on purpose but maybe bush was just reading his world map upside down which would make sense
I agree, but the lie us americans tell ourselves to justify our wicked ways is that we wanted to bring democracy and happiness to their country; but in reality, we brought bombs and unbelievable amounts of death
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:59 PM
When the US decides to blow up a building in a city, they treat pedestrians like they're not even there, and ignore all that collateral damage. And sometimes we blow up buildings just because we suspect that there are might be a couple of insurgents in the building, and kill 100 civilians in the process
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 06:59 PM
Ever sift through wikileaks? pretty dark and gruesome truths there..
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 07:02 PM
It's absolutely ridiculous; it's no wonder they're trying to kill us.. We can't seem to STOP killing civilians.
If someone came over to your country and started carelessly killing civilians in your town -- your friends and neighbors, wouldn't you fight back too???
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 07:04 PM
Not to mention the means through which we fought the war to gain our independence was through guerilla tactics. We are the biggest hypocrit of a country ever to exist.
We claim to admire a person who fights for a noble cause that he believes in; except when that person doesn't look the same as us
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 07:04 PM
the environment of an ice core might be subject to variables we aren't even aware of yet.
interesting... well, the only difference is the ice...
and we know from modern chemistry that when it comes to solids with thermodynamically-important imperfections, like ice, the molecules periodically (though rarely) liquefy and then immediately recrystallize, making the case that tiny amounts of CO2 could possibly dissolve from a gas mixture into a contact layer of water ice, and then slowly diffuse through the interior of the crystal lattice. however, the amount would be a tiny fraction of the CO2 concentration in trapped air. and if this was really happening, then the CO2 levels in the trapped air would decrease vs the increasing age of the sampled ice - but the relationship between sample age and CO2 concentration is almost perfectly harmonic.
always stevey
07-23-2013, 07:07 PM
have you ever had a panic attack cag
idunno you were lying about having a panic attack to get Lisa to talk to you.. so im making fun of you when i say that.
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 07:09 PM
When the US decides to blow up a building in a city, they treat pedestrians like they're not even there, and ignore all that collateral damage. And sometimes we blow up buildings just because we suspect that there are might be a couple of insurgents in the building, and kill 100 civilians in the process
they probably do it on purpose and cross their fingers all the random people they murder's brothers and sons and fathers become terrorists so they have an excuse to keep the war going and keep their own people scared
Ever sift through wikileaks? pretty dark and gruesome truths there..
I remember watching some videos of pilots wasting civilians and literally saying "its just like call of duty haha"
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 07:11 PM
Hmmm. Well, I wouldn't deny man-caused climate change if the evidence was substantial and well-backed. With that being said, it does just sound way too coincidental that it ties in with liberal agenda so well; might just be the conspiracy theorist in me though.
rubycalaber
07-23-2013, 07:11 PM
Not to mention the means through which we fought the war to gain our independence was through guerilla tactics. We are the biggest hypocrit of a country ever to exist.
We claim to admire a person who fights for a noble cause that he believes in; except when that person doesn't look the same as us
it is less of a race thing and more of a are they making us money thing, when the taliban were fighting russians they were depicted as honorable heroes bravely defending their homeland from invaders, watching Rambo III now adays is fucking weird
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 07:12 PM
idunno you were lying about having a panic attack to get Lisa to talk to you.. so im making fun of you when i say that.
I have Panic Disorder, I was in and out of mental health institutions as a teenager trying to get rid of them.
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 07:14 PM
Hmmm. Well, I wouldn't deny man-caused climate change if the evidence was substantial and well-backed. With that being said, it does just sound way too coincidental that it ties in with liberal agenda so well; might just be the conspiracy theorist in me though.
and let's hear your version of the "liberal agenda", and in what way it ties into reducing CO2 emissions
fuck the hows, lmao... let's just start with the why's
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 07:14 PM
it is less of a race thing and more of a are they making us money thing, when the taliban were fighting russians they were depicted as honorable heroes bravely defending their homeland from invaders, watching Rambo III now adays is fucking weird
Yeah, it's kind of disgusting how Western media likes to change a story to best fit our needs.
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 07:15 PM
I have Panic Disorder, I was in and out of mental health institutions as a teenager trying to get rid of them.
stimulants are probably first-line for panic disorders!!
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 07:18 PM
Yeah, it's kind of disgusting how Western media likes to change a story to best fit our needs.
ever read al-jazeera?
there's only two kinda of media - "western", or state-sanctioned
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 07:20 PM
I guess you could view guys like Stalin as objectively bad though; but when you think about it, western governments are pretty terrible too just from their indifference to a problem.
I bring it up a lot, but so many people die from the medical system because they aren't aware that they're the guinea pigs for the drugs they're taking. It's like clockwork; see a commercial for a new drug, six months later see a commercial for legal help to sue the makers of that drug for its unforseen consequences.
We're almost worse than guys like Josef Mengele of the SS, because we go to great lengths to cover up what we're actually doing.
The truth is, we don't know what a great many of drugs do. A pharmaceutical company essentially bribes the FDA to let it through, and the company crosses its fingers.
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 07:25 PM
A pharmaceutical company essentially bribes the FDA to let it through, and the company crosses its fingers.
i'll grant you this. the fda are crooks, so are the usda, doi and many other federal bodies
but when it comes down to it, the individuals responsible are just regular people, albeit with a higher-than-average inclination towards exploitation. just imagine how crooked and gamed the system would be if there was no regulation whatsoever...
the solution is to regulate the regulators, by filtering out special interests from the system of checks and balances
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 07:26 PM
stimulants are probably first-line for panic disorders!!
I did start getting panic attacks from drugs. The first really full-blown one where I thought "woah, this isn't just normal fear, this is a serious problem" was from amphetamine.
After that, and after benzo withdrawals, I'd seriously get a fucking bad trip from something as simple as a cup of coffee. I became really hypersensitive to my body's own neuro-chemistry, like I'd pick out "oh my brain just reduced its own cholinergic activity for some reason" or "hmm 5-HT2a pathways in the visual cortex are active during dreams" and "sleep deprivation produces an effect almost identical to anti-cholinergics when it comes to perception"
blah blah blah
I actually think you can probably relate to me with all that. But yeah, the panic attacks. Out of no where I'd get an intense fear that I was dying, and couldn't figure out what was happening.
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 07:27 PM
I think what it boils down to is not knowing; I can't identify a certain feeling my brain is experiencing, and think I'm overdosing or having a bad drug reaction or a seizure or something or whatever
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 07:34 PM
like, almost all neurophysical sensation seems to fall into one of several categories:
- glutamate
- GABAergic
- dopaminergic (which is closely tied in with norepinephrine, which is closely tied in with epinephrine)
- serotonergic (which has perhaps the widest profile of psychological effects)
- endorphin (closely tied in with dopaminergic)
- cholingergic (basically the system which manages all the mundane sensationless affairs of the brain, like our working short term memory, which is why when this system is fucked with it can produce intense delerium [anticholinergics] or obsessive association [pro-cholinergic, like with nicotine and tobacco])
anyways, knowing all that shit and starting to see the limits of your own brain can kind of mess with you in a bad way.. I'd just feel overly sensitive to all mental sensations and sometimes couldn't understand what I was feeling, think I was dying or having a seizure or overdosing, or something, and it was always just a panic attack. But something was definitely fucked up with my neurochemistry; I don't get them much anymore (going through a big alcohol phase for a few years seemed to really dull my brain down and seemed to get rid of panic attacks actually)
Camoron
07-23-2013, 07:50 PM
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Camoron
07-23-2013, 07:56 PM
^
Gentleman Doli
07-23-2013, 07:57 PM
I'm having a panic attack.
Camoron
07-23-2013, 07:58 PM
I've been drinking wine tonight from Cadillac Winery and Leelanau Cellars.
Gentleman Doli
07-23-2013, 07:59 PM
I'm having a panic attack.
blumpkin blownuts
07-23-2013, 09:03 PM
oh cool a Lit 41 song
always stevey
07-23-2013, 09:06 PM
wat
Plug Drugs
07-23-2013, 09:17 PM
b7zHQKOgv5k
absolutely disgusting.
lnopia the great
07-23-2013, 09:37 PM
i just took a shit and it was piled out of the water :smug:
timmy
07-23-2013, 09:38 PM
i just took a shit and it was piled out of the water :smug:
respect
lnopia the great
07-23-2013, 10:01 PM
took a pic if you want to see
kosher dildo
07-24-2013, 07:43 AM
That's true, but the ways we murder our own people are sincerely occidental, and much less obvious
You may be onto something there.
b7zHQKOgv5k
absolutely disgusting.
Do the gov protect the murderers as apache pilots and chase the traitors like Snowden and Bradley Manning? New Nazi Germany
N korea is like panto evil, everyone can tell, even their own people they try to brainwash, meanwhile everyone loves the actually dangerous governments who hurt a fuck load more people
You should watch the movie Olympus has fallen
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