Software Idea for Plug drugs

[juji]

Remember I've made quick app using Imgur API?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76227787/steffies/index.html

[juji]

http://i.imgur.com/vGxiJxR.png

[Plug Drugs]

i don't know what this site is, i'm scared you're going to hack into my computer now just from me having clicked on it and look at all my porna

[juji]

i don't know what this site is, i'm scared you're going to hack into my computer now just from me having clicked on it and look at all my porna

:rofl:

[Autistic Spectrum]

bitlock his ass,

[Autistic Spectrum]

http://www.bleepstatic.com/swr-guides/c/cryptolocker/CryptoLocker-thmb.jpg

[juji]

Did Plug drugs pay $ 300 for this?

[Autistic Spectrum]

it;s a horrible virus, that stupid people get like lisa and plug drugs when they use postimg.org to uplaod pictures

[Lisa]

it;s a horrible virus, that stupid people get like lisa and plug drugs when they use postimg.org to uplaod pictures

You're a tard

[maks]

it;s a horrible virus, that stupid people get like lisa and plug drugs when they use postimg.org to uplaod pictures

somebody at work got crypto locker 2.0, it's no joke that thing is nasty

[Plug Drugs]

it;s a horrible virus, that stupid people get like lisa and plug drugs when they use postimg.org to uplaod pictures

thats funny because i used to get rid of viruses like that with no problem at all literally all the time

[Plug Drugs]

search every file on your computer, organize by date added, find the suspicious looking ones and delete them, not that hard

[Plug Drugs]

once the .exe is off your comp and the virus isn't actively causing problems anymore, use a registry cleaner to unfuck everything

[Plug Drugs]

wait so this virus puts all your media files and shit into an encrypted folder that can only be opened if you buy the key? hmm sounds like that would have to be 'fixed' the old fashion way; aka showing up at the guy's house who made it with a crowbar

[Plug Drugs]

also my hard drives are partitioned and my media files are kept separate from everything else, so i bet that this virus wouldnt even be able to find them

i'd lose the dozen or so pictures in 'my documents', oh no

[Plug Drugs]

also inb4 marks starts saying i dont know what i'm talking about and starts arguing semantics

[m0nde]

somebody at work got crypto locker 2.0, it's no joke that thing is nastythat is one thing that is absolutely not funny. i've had that pop up several times on client machines at several sites where i used to work but symantec enterprise always used to catch it.

[m0nde]

glad i got in before that crap and didn't have to scroll past that shit

[Gentleman Doli]

search every file on your computer, organize by date added, find the suspicious looking ones and delete them, not that hard

plgu drugs i tihnk you have a promiseing career as a bored ytmnsfw it worker ahead of you

[Plug Drugs]

gee thanks =3

[Plug Drugs]

i was an aspiring hacker once but, then i realized that some of the things i was considering learning (like DOS attacks or hacking encryptions) i'd have no way of practicing the things being learned without accidentally committing a crime in the process unknowingly; and as is the case with DDOS attacks, no way of knowing if a "practice" DoS attack worked or not, because theres no way of knowing if it didnt work, and one of the only ways of finding out if it did work is if your ISP redirects you to a site that says "we've noticed suspicious activity coming from your router that appears similar to a dos attack" or something like that, i.e. getting in trouble.

so building computers and learning about hardware is about is complex as i'll get; i don't think i'll ever learn coding except for maybe specific things here or there

[StompleB]

I've read in the medical literature that partaking in Tetrahydrocannabinol causes severe paranoia.

[Plug Drugs]

I've read in the medical literature that partaking in Tetrahydrocannabinol causes severe paranoia.

It's nature's fear

[Plug Drugs]

That's what marijuana is; psychoactive chemicals are literally everywhere in nature; your nervous system has to adjust to the presence of electrochemicals causing noise in the CNS -- this act of 'adjusting' is what leads to the perceived 'enlightenment'

Literally even touching things like wet bark or inhaling smoke from a camp fire can have similar effects as your nervous system has to adjust to chemicals in its environment

[Plug Drugs]

This also leads to the feeling of being 'one with nature', as your nervous system has to align itself with its eenvironment

[Plug Drugs]

With that in mind, doing things like camping or even just being outside can evoke psychedelic experiences

[Plug Drugs]

This phenomenon is perhaps most recognizable in the jungles of south america, where the exotic plant life brings a whole spectrum of psychoactive chemicals in the local environment -- ayahuasca is a prime example, where several plants produce profound effects in conjunction with each other, but by themselves do not

[Plug Drugs]

The more you know

[Plug Drugs]

Then there's people like bob highes who use themselves as guinea pigs for experimenting with bizarre and arbitrary drug cocktails. Bob was like a mad scientist, toying around with his adrenal system and other things, achieving no desirable effects but doing it merely to see if he could, and damaging his circulatory system in the process

[m0nde]

http://i.imgur.com/H1kvCMp.png

[juji]

http://i.imgur.com/H1kvCMp.png

I loved that!

[maks]

that is one thing that is absolutely not funny. i've had that pop up several times on client machines at several sites where i used to work but symantec enterprise always used to catch it.

the idiots in marketing were using USB sticks for all of their campaigns, their ONLY copy of their campaigns, so when one of them got infected and it started searching drive letters well lets just say they lost several days worth of work because I am not going to ask the boss for $500 in bitcoins to pay the ransom. Strangely it ignored everything in ~/My Documents and the desktop so if they'd been keeping their crap where it belongs they would have been fine. Thank god we don't use mapped network drives for the front office.

[Plug Drugs]

the idiots in marketing were using USB sticks for all of their campaigns, their ONLY copy of their campaigns, so when one of them got infected and it started searching drive letters well lets just say they lost several days worth of work because I am not going to ask the boss for $500 in bitcoins to pay the ransom. Strangely it ignored everything in ~/My Documents and the desktop so if they'd been keeping their crap where it belongs they would have been fine. Thank god we don't use mapped network drives for the front office.

Yeah people should keep all their media files and movies and porn in my dovuments where they belong, so they can get uploaded to cloud and everyone on your facebook can see that you like to watch bukkakegoosluts.avi and have windows media center share all of it over your wireless router without even asking you so your neighbors can enjoy your porn too

[Plug Drugs]

And have every stolen song/movie indexed by windows media player so its easier for someone to one day give you a fine for all of it

[Plug Drugs]

I love the default folders that arent organized in a coherent tree but just link to each other in a loop of shortcuts, microsoft did something right with that for sure

[Plug Drugs]

Can you imagine if all the bells and whistles were gone and files and folders were just organized in a classic tree hierarchy and thats all you had? Why, it'd be so efficient.. no one would ever need another operating system and the guys who made it wouldnt make any money!

[maks]

Yeah people should keep all their media files and movies and porn in my dovuments where they belong, so they can get uploaded to cloud and everyone on your facebook can see that you like to watch bukkakegoosluts.avi and have windows media center share all of it over your wireless router without even asking you so your neighbors can enjoy your porn too

this is a work computer numbnuts if they upload their marketing campaigns and icon packs for our mobile apps to facebook they will get fired.

this is your biggest problem whenever you start yapping about computers you assume everyone in the world is using them exclusively for minecraft and social media like you are, you can't grasp the concept that it's an entirely different scenario in an office because you've never had a job. anyway, in the real world, the my documents directory exists to simplify migrations, backups, and rebuilds. I don't feel like tracking down c:\stuff\excel stuff\spreadsheets on 50 different workstations.

not even going to explain permissions because it would break your tiny head if I tried to explain that not everyone logs in as an administrator all the time.

[maks]

what's a standard user account? wait you mean there's people who can only write inside of their own profile? but how will they make a million subdirectories off the root of c:?? how will they install facebook toolbars and minecraft texture packs?? that's stupid!

[maks]

anyway m0nde apparently the new version of cryptolocker deletes your shadow copies so don't count on them and it also secure erases the original files after they're encrypted so anything you get back with a file carver is going to be a few days old. best bet is to blacklist eexcutables in AppData and /temp, insist on chrome/firefox with adblock plus, backup a lot and hope for the best

[Plug Drugs]

this is a work computer numbnuts if they upload their marketing campaigns and icon packs for our mobile apps to facebook they will get fired.

this is your biggest problem whenever you start yapping about computers you assume everyone in the world is using them exclusively for minecraft and social media like you are, you can't grasp the concept that it's an entirely different scenario in an office because you've never had a job. anyway, in the real world, the my documents directory exists to simplify migrations, backups, and rebuilds. I don't feel like tracking down c:\stuff\excel stuff\spreadsheets on 50 different workstations.

not even going to explain permissions because it would break your tiny head if I tried to explain that not everyone logs in as an administrator all the time.
No i know, I was just speaking in generalities and talking about myself, not office workers

[Plug Drugs]

And i dont like social media by the way, and i only just started playing minecraft on my computer

What i actually spend most of my time doing on the internet is rambling like im doing right now

[Plug Drugs]

I know how permissions work by the way, we used to mess around with them in highschool
One of my friends had a message pop up on every computer in the school saying "mwahahaha, bow down tot he almighty timothy"

[maks]

No i know, I was just speaking in generalities and talking about myself, not office workers

why did you even comment if nothing you have to say is relevant

[Plug Drugs]

I'm of the belief that if you let your office employees have full control over their computer, theyll get their work done more efficiently as well as take pride in their work.
Most office employees arent going to abuse that control.

Just ask google, that philosophy of management works great

[Plug Drugs]

Plus, if an employee has that control and gets to know their computer well, they will be less likely tog et viruses, and be able tofix Them when they do get them

[maks]

I'm of the belief that you have no idea what you're talking about and rarely do

[Plug Drugs]

I'm of the belief that you have no idea what you're talking about and rarely do

okay let's look at this for a second:

Google - the most powerful company in the world - its employees are given total control over the computers they work on and have no restrictions imposed on them by the IT guy - management trusts them to be responsible, and this philosophy works to their advantage as it generates creative thinking.

Other Office Companies - heavily restrict what a worker is allowed to do on their computer - stuck in a perpetual corporate panic attack - due to the monotonous nature of the tasks they perform on their computer, the rate they can complete those tasks slows down and becomes excruciating

If you let office workers be their own boss over their computer, they prioritize tasks intuitively and not only get things done faster, but also come up with new approaches when solving problems and figure out ways to cut corners.

If you give employees the freedom to do things their own way, they'll put passion into their work.

This wouldn't put you out of work or anything like that marks, it would actually make your job easier; you'd have smaller team sizes and therefore less possibility of someone getting a virus. If people always remember to back up their work in multiple ways, work is never lost. Worst case scenario, you do a fresh install of windows for someone and reinstall the essential software; with modern hardware, this would only take like 20 minutes. As long as their project is backed up, there are no drawbacks to this.

[Plug Drugs]

It would only be problematic for the book-keepers and those in charge of managing company finances; you'd definitely want things to be more secure for those computers.

[Plug Drugs]

I'm trying to help IT workers like you marks; there would be more office-environment companies starting up, and more IT positions opening up. Higher demand, higher pay for you. It would also be cheaper for the companies because they'd have less employees - when you have less employees but give them more control over how they do their job, they get more work done in less amount of time. This wouldn't put office workers out of business, because like I said, there'd be more office-environment companies turning up.

[maks]

Worst case scenario, you do a fresh install of windows for someone and reinstall the essential software; with modern hardware, this would only take like 20 minutes.

this sentence by itself is so laughably untrue that it invalidates everything else.

[maks]

durr just reimage the machine and all their minecraft settings and facebook accounts come in from the web automatically it should only take about 20 minutes start to finish

[Plug Drugs]

All of that is part of an economic transition that's basically going to happen; it can't not happen - either people transition to this on their own, or the economy crashes and we have to transition anyways.
What's going to happen is corporations will start to become much more region-based, with less multinational conglomerates. It's just a result of an increasing North American population; higher population density means that international super-corporations like walmart or mcdonalds will have less of a potential for profit compared to region-specific corporations.

[Plug Drugs]

this sentence by itself is so laughably untrue that it invalidates everything else.

no it's not

[Plug Drugs]

stop thinking 'my job is to keep things as difficult as possible' and start thinking willy wonka and the chocolate factory

[maks]

my job is to ensure stability and enable productivity reimaging everyone's machine once a week is the opposite of both those things

[maks]

believe it or not office people do more than play minecraft and go on facebook, they're not sitting there reading about nietzche and chomsky on wikipedia, they are working in applications that the company bought and provided to them and they rarely if ever need any software outside of the scope of their job

[maks]

well this secretary never does anything but excel and word but I should probably make her an admin so she can install minecraft because that's my narrow minded interpretation of google's corporate policy and they're a big company so it would automatically make her more productive

[Plug Drugs]

my job is to ensure stability and enable productivity reimaging everyone's machine once a week is the opposite of both those things

you've reached a ceiling effect though with 'stability and productivity', you're inadvertently preventing people from developing habits which would optimize stability and productivity on their own

[Plug Drugs]

I'm not saying make her an admin, I'm saying allow her to organize her computer in a way that works best for her

[maks]

you know a standard user can't write outside of their profile right you should we just talked about it a few minutes ago

[Plug Drugs]

And if she's got nothing else to do at the moment and feels like playing solitaire or something, who gives a shit; having entertainment during downtime puts workers in a better mood, and hence it increases productivity

Social media could be problematic I suppose; some people would feel too entitled to just talk on facebook 90% of the time and would act like you're inconveniencing them when you ask them to actually do some work.
Most people, if they actually enjoy their job and are given the freedom to be creative, aren't ever going to abuse their freedom though (given that they actually have something to do and are never being pressured to always be doing something).

And anyways, with smart phones nowadays, you're never going to totally stop people from going on facebook and whatever when they shouldn't.

Besides that, there are legitimate reasons someone might need to go on facebook during work: they might need to ask their husband/wife to pick up their kid from school; they might need to look up a phone number that is only listed on facebook; etc..

Again, you should stop thinking 'my job is to keep things as difficult as possible'

[maks]

are you suggesting I change the permissions for the root of C: so everyone can make directories there

[Plug Drugs]

I don't need to prove that this philosophy works because Google Inc. tested it out and already proved it for me.

[Plug Drugs]

are you suggesting I change the permissions for the root of C: so everyone can make directories there
If they feel they have a reason that making a new directory in C: would somehow be more efficient for them, why stop them?

[Plug Drugs]

you know a standard user can't write outside of their profile right you should we just talked about it a few minutes ago

Are there multiple people using the same computer, or user profiles accessible on multiple computers or something? I suppose I understand where you're coming from then, but in a cubicle setting where everyone is using the same computer every day, why not allow them to be the admin of their own computer, or at least give them some of the same permissions as an admin, so they can do things in their own way?

[maks]

I don't need to prove that this philosophy works because Google Inc. tested it out and already proved it for me.

yeah there's no possibility that you took the one sentence from the article that confirmed your preconceived notions and ignored the rest of what is no doubt a large and complex IT policy/infrastructure


If they feel they have a reason that making a new directory in C: would somehow be more efficient for them, why stop them?

why don't I let them print out their emails and fax them to each other instead of hitting the reply button if they believe it would be somehow more efficient for them

[Plug Drugs]

Also, I'm not suggesting you suddenly let everyone in the office have unrestricted control over their computer, because let's face it, people can be idiots.
But with smaller team sizes, if you just let people get to know their computer, they won't do dumb things as much

[m0nde]

please stop. i don't even knw why max is talking to you rationally wihthout simply telling yo to shut the fuck up

[Plug Drugs]

yeah there's no possibility that you took the one sentence from the article that confirmed your preconceived notions and ignored the rest of what is no doubt a large and complex IT policy/infrastructure
I think the smaller offices and branches of google are still slightly following your traditional nazi office management model, if only out of habit and tradition, but google headquarters are considered one of the most laid back offices in the world




why don't I let them print out their emails and fax them to each other instead of hitting the reply button if they believe it would be somehow more efficient for them
In certain cases, that might just for some reason be appropriate to do; sometimes people need a physical copy of something for whatever reason. E-mails can also be a pain in the ass, like if an email is accidentally deleted, or if something needs a more detailed verbal explanation - if a person were to hand them a physical copy of the letter, they'd be able to answer any questions as well as give additional information

[Plug Drugs]

please stop. i don't even knw why max is talking to you rationally wihthout simply telling yo to shut the fuck up

what's your problem

[m0nde]

it's just painful watching you regurgitate the same rubbish again and again with no clue how any of it applies in the real world in a way this is laboriously long winded

[Plug Drugs]

m0nde I think you just look at a post and assume what is being said before even reading it; using your imagination to fill in the blanks like that just holds me to my negative reputation, which I don't care about so you can save it

[Plug Drugs]

it's just painful watching you regurgitate the same rubbish again and again with no clue how any of it applies in the real world in a way this is laboriously long winded

It's philosophy and lateral thinking as a means of problem solving.
Do we have problems in society? Check.
Does the workplace suck and have a lot of negative aspects that could easily be resolved just by taking a new approach to things? Yes.

At the end of the day, life is what you make it. If you settle for a shitty work environment, that's what you're going to get.
If I have to spend 40-80 hours a week somewhere for years, they better have already streamlined their model for management so I don't lose my fucking mind.

[m0nde]

you're assuming something that i haven't read your rubbish. this time i did and i admit, i usually scroll past everything you write. you believe you know google's it poslicies from reading one article (probably watching a 15 minute thing about them) and have no idea how individual parts of their corporation work - none of what you said would at all be useful to anything but their app development sector. this whole discussion began discussing security and you are talking utter bullshit talking about giving everyone administrator access. yes withon the confines of some structure put in place for a certain reason - most importantly to facilitate productivity - there has to be some system put in place which will always put limitations on what a person can do.
the bigger your operation for manageablility if not anything else you have to impose more and more structure. if you're a 2 man operation you can do whatever the fuck you want. when i managed 1500 servers at 700 restaurants with all of their little payment screens and kitchen printers, restaurant lighting and music systems, kitchen display screens, printers and payment systems, etc. there were rules that had to be imposed for all of it to be manageable for the people who worked with it at the restaurant on a day to day basis and for those of us at the network operations center pushing changes (yeah through push gravity) and fixing problems remotely.
when working with this shit at the restaurants and the computers at the airports and the computers at our office buildings we had to have shit set up the same way everywhere with certain images for certain things because it would have been a mess if it was left up to each person.
i've worked in situations where i've had to deal with a 5 man office, 20 man office, graphics studio, lawyer's office, doctor's office, etc. and they are ALL different and have different security and accessibilitiy needs
what you're talking about is either utter naive or moot at best or outright wrong (which you usually are).

[m0nde]

It's philosophy and lateral thinking as a means of problem solving.
Do we have problems in society? Check.
Does the workplace suck and have a lot of negative aspects that could easily be resolved just by taking a new approach to things? Yes.

At the end of the day, life is what you make it. If you settle for a shitty work environment, that's what you're going to get.
If I have to spend 40-80 hours a week somewhere for years, they better have already streamlined their model for management so I don't lose my fucking mind.yeah go work at mckinsey and co then plugdrugs you'd be a great coprorate troubleshooter because you know exactly what you're talking about and you know that it applies to everything in all situations
there's no need to undersand engineering companies and how they're differeent and the same as a hospital. no need to understand logistics and supply chain management and how its applicable to an airport as opposed to a restaurant.
oh we're just alking about the computer systems involved here and how people use them at each step, not even what's being done and what common practices or iso standards or pci standards are requeiredd for someone to do business with you

nope give the guy admin access on his symbol scanner and on his coroporate laptop and let him root his corporate phone. now pay me for telling you this

[Plug Drugs]

you're assuming something that i haven't read your rubbish. this time i did and i admit, i usually scroll past everything you write. you believe you know google's it poslicies from reading one article (probably watching a 15 minute thing about them) and have no idea how individual parts of their corporation work - none of what you said would at all be useful to anything but their app development sector. this whole discussion began discussing security and you are talking utter bullshit talking about giving everyone administrator access. yes withon the confines of some structure put in place for a certain reason - most importantly to facilitate productivity - there has to be some system put in place which will always put limitations on what a person can do.
the bigger your operation for manageablility if not anything else you have to impose more and more structure. if you're a 2 man operation you can do whatever the fuck you want. when i managed 1500 servers at 700 restaurants with all of their little payment screens and kitchen printers, restaurant lighting and music systems, kitchen display screens, printers and payment systems, etc. there were rules that had to be imposed for all of it to be manageable for the people who worked with it at the restaurant on a day to day basis and for those of us at the network operations center pushing changes (yeah through push gravity) and fixing problems remotely.
when working with this shit at the restaurants and the computers at the airports and the computers at our office buildings we had to have shit set up the same way everywhere with certain images for certain things because it would have been a mess if it was left up to each person.
i've worked in situations where i've had to deal with a 5 man office, 20 man office, graphics studio, lawyer's office, doctor's office, etc. and they are ALL different and have different security and accessibilitiy needs
what you're talking about is either utter naive or moot at best or outright wrong (which you usually are).
Well yeah I mean I've never worked for google and yeah all I did was read a few articles about their model for management.
You do know more than me about this line of business, so point taken; no need to get hostile though.

I did mention in an earlier post that parts of the company that have to manage finances need tight security; but yeah, like you said, development teams should be granted all the privileges they want or need. Pretty much everyone else too, even medical clinics.
Do you know how simplistic and restricting the software is that doctors use when prescribing medication is? Doctors basically aren't allowed to reach conclusions on their own anymore because the computer hasn't indexed any alternative diagnoses aside from ones that big pharm companies provided. It's more than just a little embarrassing that software written by some guy without a whole lot of review by medical professionals before being implemented is bossing around a doctor who went to school for 8 years

[Plug Drugs]

Network security is there to combat viruses and hackers, but it seems that the reason people write viruses or hack into networks is actually because we live in a society where everything is overly restricted. Have you ever heard of the notion that expectations will dictate reality? Simply by expecting foul play and preparing for it ultimately gives people the drive for foul play in the first place.
Imagine though having an office computer that would back up files in 3 different ways: cloud, the computer's own hard drive, and a flash drive. Then, if for whatever reason software or files become corrupt, just do a fresh install of the operating system and reinstall the software quick -- with processors and RAM as fast as they are these days, it'd take literally a few minutes. Then, have the server automatically set all of the computer's network settings back to what they need to be.

There's really no reason for keeping everything as tight as a nun's asshole.

[m0nde]

Doctors basically aren't allowed to reach conclusions on their own anymore because the computer hasn't indexed any alternative diagnoses aside from ones that big pharm companies provided. It's more than just a little embarrassing that software written by some guy without a whole lot of review by medical professionals before being implemented is bossing around a doctor who went to school for 8 yearsagain youre talking shit. please sgtop

[Plug Drugs]

And marks said it was indeed a development team he was managing a server for

[Plug Drugs]

again youre talking shit. please sgtop

I don't think I am

[Plug Drugs]

wait, you were quoting what I said about doctors. I am entirely right about that actually.
Doctors can't prescribe specific doses of medication or meds for off-label uses outside of what the software allows; the software makes it a hassle to do so - it was written by a 3rd party which the company owns the clinic hired, and it was designed with money, not the health of the patients, in mind. Most of the information the software developer used as a basis when writing it up was provided by pharmaceutical companies, not medical literature.

[Plug Drugs]

And it's all because IT guys and software developers restricted what people can or can not do on their computers.

[Plug Drugs]

They need to re-envision how doctors prescribe medication and look up information -- but that would basically require the government to step in and start bossing around hospitals and clinics and kicking out pharmaceutical lobbyists.

[Plug Drugs]

Doctors and hospitals should never need a pharmaceutical company to lobby and promote a drug; appropriate medication should be prescribed based on medical literature, not a pharmaceutical corporation's recommendation.

[m0nde]

it may make it a hassle to prrescribe outside doses, but it can. i've set up shit like this, so please stop,. there are leagal issues that the doctor is worried about far more than any idealistic, romantic idea of a money grab you're concerned about. you're right that the software is VERY VERY restricting and i know many doctors who refuse to use it and they're allowed to, though they have to document what they do in some other way and have someone put it into the computer.
i've dealt with this in both the united states and canada where have you implemented it?

[Plug Drugs]

Worst of all, the people writing bills to put any sort of plan to fix things into action are either:
A) agenda driven
B) terrible writers

I'm hoping that the medical system gets an overhaul soon, or is in the works right now, and doesn't make it worse.

The whole ebola thing might have been a blessing in disguise, because it gave the government permission to bust in the door of the hospitals and cuss out all the bad little boys and girls who've been fucking shit up

[m0nde]

this is all great, but it ends up rhetorical and philosophical and ultimately a religious discussion about doctrine. why not go out into the real world and affect change, plugdrugs and then come back with your discoveries and tales of how you changed the world with your wikipedia reading.
you're not stupid, by any means. go for it.

[maks]

And marks said it was indeed a development team he was managing a server for

no, it was front office, which is secretaries sales people and marketing. the developers have admin access, because it's necessary, but they're also explicitly isolated from everything but the source control servers and on a separate NAT and a thousand other precautions that you wouldn't understand if I explained them to you


I don;'t manage "a" server, I manage 60 of them

[maks]

it's just painful watching you regurgitate the same rubbish again and again with no clue how any of it applies in the real world in a way this is laboriously long winded

[Plug Drugs]

it may make it a hassle to prrescribe outside doses, but it can.
Yes, it CAN, but no one ever does
Accurate dosing would take things like body mass index and metabolism into consideration, and medications would be available with smaller increments between the next dose up.


i've set up shit like this, so please stop,. there are leagal issues that the doctor is worried about far more than any idealistic, romantic idea of a money grab you're concerned about.
On the contrary, medical malpractice often results from doctors just blindly prescribing things because the software let them do it.. at least it used to, I think they've been cleaning up their act a lot lately.

you're right that the software is VERY VERY restricting and i know many doctors who refuse to use it and they're allowed to, though they have to document what they do in some other way and have someone put it into the computer.
i've dealt with this in both the united states and canada where have you implemented it?
I agree with you and it is a very complex issue, and I guess no one group of people should be held responsible for faults in the system, I take back what I said earlier about developers being responsible

[m0nde]

Worst of all, the people writing bills to put any sort of plan to fix things into action are either:
A) agenda driven
B) terrible writers

I'm hoping that the medical system gets an overhaul soon, or is in the works right now, and doesn't make it worse.

The whole ebola thing might have been a blessing in disguise, because it gave the government permission to bust in the door of the hospitals and cuss out all the bad little boys and girls who've been fucking shit upyeah i was surprised that the niggers and vietnamese who were put in charge of thaking care of these people weren't hazmat certified. but that's the opposite of what you're saying. yo're on about giving people the freedom to do what they want instead of following guidelines.
if these people had followed proper safety procedures, if this shit was kicked into their skulls and checked by some slavemaster overseer, eespecially in such a high profile set of cases none of the fallout would have happened

[Plug Drugs]

" "
I don't care, I'll be bitching about everything until the system is satisfactory.
I realize this isn't exactly the best place to have my voice heard, and really my reputation here might be doing more harm for my cause than good, but I figure that you guys are the best there is at arguing, and if I can convince you guys then that means I'm ready to take my complaints to the next step up.

[Plug Drugs]

yeah i was surprised that the niggers and vietnamese who were put in charge of thaking care of these people weren't hazmat certified. but that's the opposite of what you're saying. yo're on about giving people the freedom to do what they want instead of following guidelines.
if these people had followed proper safety procedures, if this shit was kicked into their skulls and checked by some slavemaster overseer, eespecially in such a high profile set of cases none of the fallout would have happened

yeah


yo're on about giving people the freedom to do what they want instead of following guidelines.
No one can be entirely Apollonian or entirely Dionysian; in my opinion, any philosophy for an ideology has to be fine-tuned at certain scales and accomodate for both left and right

[m0nde]

Yes, it CAN, but no one ever does
Accurate dosing would take things like body mass index and metabolism into consideration, and medications would be available with smaller increments between the next dose up.again bullshit. maybe in a walk-in clinic where you ahve no relationship with the patient and you're much more worried about covering your own ass, but not with the people i've dealt with. they DO take into consideration body mass and metabolism and other things that are exceptions to what the monograph prescribes. i've dealt with this myself, personally and have amny doctors in my family who talk about this kind of thing. AND i've discussed this with doctors in how they will deal with exactly this issue when i';ve set up softare for them.
On the contrary, medical malpractice often results from doctors just blindly prescribing things because the software let them do it.. at least it used to, I think they've been cleaning up their act a lot lately.

I agree with you and it is a very complex issue, and I guess no one group of people should be held responsible for faults in the system, I take back what I said earlier about developers being responsiblemalpractice is MUCH bigger issue in the US. devs shouldn't be held responsible because they're just developiing what they're told and going by specs. pharma shouldn't be held responsible either because they have tested out their shit to whatever level they can and yes, so fucking what if money is the motive. why the hell shouldn't it be? why do anything in a capitalistic culture without that as the motivation?

what in my opinion is the probllem is that laws and guidelines are NOT followed and influence peddling is allowed to ocfur to bend or change those laws. and that money and lobbying to governing bodies and congress at a state and federal level isn't more thoroughly documented. also i believe that far worse than any of these people is the insurance industry. these fuckers need to have their whole industry reformed.

[m0nde]

yeah


No one can be entirely Apollonian or entirely Dionysian; in my opinion, any philosophy for an ideology has to be fine-tuned at certain scales and accomodate for both left and rightin a situation like this you want to be as rigid and anal and by the books as possible. why would you open up your own asshole to getting stuff rammed into it when you do something wrong? why? because it was niggers and vietnamese who don't give a shit what they're doing and were not trained correctly or monitored correctly, that's why

[m0nde]

anyway, the discussion had moved onto something else. i have thigh gaps to admire and stuff to eat, pictures to take and vape to inhale before the weekend is gone

[Plug Drugs]

also i believe that far worse than any of these people is the insurance industry. these fuckers need to have their whole industry reformed.
why though?
yeah the medical insurance system in the US is ugly, but changing it wouldn't actually be a change to insurance as it would be a change to how hospitals receive funding.
Right now, the God awful 'affordable care' act is just a sneaky way to enslave kids to debt and keep poor people over the age of 25 poor indefinitely. The older generation in their 30s, 40s, and 50s is subconsciously terrified at the prospect of being replaced by the youth, and figure that a way to maintain their position of dominance over the young is by increasing the monetary gap between people in the 18-25 range and people in the 30-50 range. It's disgusting. If I didn't know any better I'd say their ultimate goal is to get away with raping young women

[maks]

I don't care, I'll be bitching about everything until the system is satisfactory.
I realize this isn't exactly the best place to have my voice heard, and really my reputation here might be doing more harm for my cause than good, but I figure that you guys are the best there is at arguing, and if I can convince you guys then that means I'm ready to take my complaints to the next step up.

the system is already satisfactory, you're whining because nobody asked you how it should be and it doesn't conform to all your dumb misguided little ideas

[maks]

do you know why no one asked you well you see it's pretty simple it's because you don't know shit

[Plug Drugs]

the system is already satisfactory, you're whining because nobody asked you how it should be and it doesn't conform to all your dumb misguided little ideas

uh no it isn't, i've got a laundry list here for you...
1. Scam Colleges
2. We're STILL having bombing campaigns on foreign countries and killing countless civilians
3. Tech companies becoming corrupt
4. we're swimming in a sea of industrial chemicals
5. Medical malpractice and corrupt medical system
6. corrupt politicians
7. corrupt police (not really around here, but in the south it appears to be apeshit)

i can keep going

[maks]

1. holy shit the world has problems?
2. thank god you told me, I never would have known otherwise
3. sadly, you're not in a position to do anything about it
4. and you never will be
5. and, considering the bang-up job you do managing your own life
6. maybe you're not the most qualified person to tell other people how to live theirs
7. so maybe, just maybe, you should shut the fuck up
8. and stop pretending you know everything
9. when it's obvious to anyone who's paying attention
10. that you don't know shit

[maks]

I can keep going

[jon]

1. hey, now
2. this is crazy
3. but here's some numbers
4. so call me maybe

[Autistic Spectrum]

plyuggy

[juji]

1. Nobody hires me cus im deaf.
2. I can make money.
3. I'm motivated.
4. I can keep going

[Plug Drugs]

1. holy shit the world has problems?
Scam colleges would be an easy fix. The ones that are totally defunct probably need to just be discontinued and have a refund issued to the students if they wish or they can finish up their degree if they're close. The ones that are only slightly straying off the path of a legitimate education, they just need the quality of the education to improve by improving the reference material being used.
If you put me in front of a room full of students, I guarantee you I can get them to see why the subject is interesting and want to learn it; not only that, but I bet I could get them so interested that they all start talking about it trying to put it together themselves.


2. thank god you told me, I never would have known otherwise
If there's one thing on the planet a person should show humility when talking about, it's probably all the unnecessary pointless wars being fought. People just need to come together in peace; no one wants to fight anymore. I think for quite some time Europe, Russia, and Eastern Asia were all waiting for the USA to sort of 'snap out of it' and decide instead to go around the world helping people and providing technology to help prevent disease and solve hunger. But I hope it's not too late and the rest of the world hasn't lost hope in us yet.


3. sadly, you're not in a position to do anything about it
I'm a good writer. I know how to go back to basics when writing an article on something. More than that though, I am actually willing to go back to the basics in order to make a good article. This entails persistently checking to make sure references and citations are valid, and also to provide multiple different references and citations for each topic. This was actually stuff they were supposed to be teaching you as a freshman or a sophomore in high school; I think you received it but apparently not many other people did.


4. and you never will be
don't know what you're implying here

5. and, considering the bang-up job you do managing your own life
Time and time again I go great distances to do the right thing, work hard, and show people I am capable of doing anything as long as I know it is the right thing to do. Unfortunately, me actually doing a good job at something is taken by many as even worse than me not doing the job at all. Something about my face, people expect something different from me or something; they don't like seeing a fat dog bark.


6. maybe you're not the most qualified person to tell other people how to live theirs
If there's one benefit that recklessness has, it's truly learning your limits, and truly knowing what is dangerous and what isn't. People claiming that something is safe and assuring people not to worry about it when they don't truly know (I'm thinking of politicians who allow for suspected toxic chemicals to be used in the making of a variety of consumer products) rings quite a few alarm bells in my mind. I keep looking for chemists, physicists, and medical engineers and researchers who can give me solid answers for my questions, but all I keep finding is archetypal "book keepers".


7. so maybe, just maybe, you should shut the fuck up
8. and stop pretending you know everything
9. when it's obvious to anyone who's paying attention
10. that you don't know shit
The route of concern I am taking (posting here to get brutally honest opinions) is pretty much the most optimized route I could take to have such concerns addressed. However, you guys have been slacking lately; you're finding it harder and harder to rub it in my face why I'm wrong..
Either I'm getting smarter or the internet is making everyone dumber; I haven't figured it out yet. It might be a little bit of both in certain regards.

[Plug Drugs]

You hack programs? That's cool, I hack sociology

[Autistic Spectrum]

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[Lisa]

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[m0nde]

You hack programs? That's cool, I hack sociologyahahahahahahahahaaaaa! that is a keeper oh my god, yes you fucking moron

[Plug Drugs]

thanks, more good ones coming this way, stay tuned for more Posts by Plug Drugs, the rambling edition

[m0nde]

that one will definitely enter the collective gay nigger dick consciousness nowhere near as brilliant as elezzzark's or dp's comments but it's pretty good. keep going, keep going

[Plug Drugs]

wait am I being insulted at all? I've got a really good one in mind if so

[juji]

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[juji]

You hack programs? That's cool, I hack sociology

[Plug Drugs]

yeah i was surprised that the niggers and vietnamese
It's not an issue of race. If you want to hear my opinion which is slightly closer to the truth, it seems like minorities in hospitals are often given the jobs that people usually do not want to do.
I'm almost sick of talking poorly of hospitals at this point and just don't even want to bother doing it anymore, but one thing I personally have noticed is that high risk high stress low pay jobs are often given to minorities. I am not sure if this was semi-intentional, subconscious, or if they merely wound up with the job because they weren't one of the people who asked not to do it.

Visiting my grandfather in hospice, the night nurse there barely spoke English. I guess no one wants to work nights in hospice, but they do need to have someone there at night, so basically whoever applies for that job gets it.

Again, it's not an issue of race at all. For me, the issue was the language barrier. Due to a technicality, no one was giving my grandfather pain meds in hospice before we showed up.. Literally nothing. No. Pain. Medication. We almost had to start arguing with the night nurse to get him put on pain meds. I don't know what it was; at the time I thought maybe she had been told explicitly by someone not to give out pain medication willy nilly or she'll get fired, so she took this very seriously and simply would not give pain meds out at all.

Here is the part that seriously bothers me though. He couldn't have even asked for pain meds if he wanted to. He had just had an unsuccessful surgery to remove throat cancer which ended disasterously; the cancer had sort of softened/weakened and ate away at the tissue between the esophagus and the trachea, so when they tried to remove the tumor, they ripped right through into his trachea.. He couldn't talk obviously, and hence could not ask for pain medication.

The doctor had assured my aunt, however, that they would make sure he was pain free in hospice on plenty of pain meds until he passed. When we showed up the night of the next day though, of course, no one was giving him any pain medication whatsoever.

The only thing even remotely resembling an excuse that I can think of is that the doctor determined that narcotics could end up prolonging his suffering; if the brain is in a state of euphoria, the individual may cling to life even when their body would naturally otherwise opt to accept death, as the body and brain usually recognize when an injury is beyond repair, but opiates could theoretically prevent the brain from recognizing the traumatic state of the body.
But I don't think that was the case, because after we PUSHED to get him pain medication, it immediately helped. He was able to relax and go to sleep, and I literally heard a sigh of relief of his pain dissipating once the medication kicked in. He died peacefully in his sleep a few hours later.

If we hadn't been there to make sure he got humane treatment, his last hours would have been completely miserable
I am just glad we were able to be there for him, and glad that we were able to help him out by being there

[maks]

You hack programs? That's cool, I hack sociology

That is easily the gayest thing I've ever heard. for the record you don't, you just whine about it a lot.

[Plug Drugs]

That is easily the gayest thing I've ever heard. for the record you don't, you just whine about it a lot.
Neuropsychology and cognitive psychology as it pertains to neuroscience, up until recently, had been a large amount of guesswork and relied heavily on reported effects from patients & drug users as well as old medical literature. Functional MRIs were a lot of help, but it was still largely a puzzle (and still largely is) prior to breakthroughs in the past several years.

I was largely obsessed with studying pharmacology as a teenager, and then piecing together how various drugs affected my cognition.
I got fairly good at this, and being prescribed stimulants for ADHD at 17, I was able to experience what they refer to in psychology as 'metacognition' - basically, being able to cognitively perceive the processes occurring structurally and neurocognitively in the brain as they are happening.
I would say I am fairly adept at understanding psychology arising from activity at the synaptic scale.
One mistake I then made was, instead of pursuing further understanding of modern neuroscience, I decided to re-examine psychology from its modern roots: namely Nietzsche and Jung (I actually only read a small amount of Freud's work, as it seemed too ego-maniacal and assuming).

Instead of helping re-enforce my understanding of modern neuropsychology, it merely sucked me in to the same labyrinth that other psychologists from the early 20th century had been sucked in to -- and without conclusions supported by modern equipment, I found myself trying to piece together the mechanics of the human psyche entirely from the bottom up. This is largely impossible to do. What will end up happening is, it will lead to conclusions but ones which are only communicable largely through artistic prose, and is almost indistinguishable from philosophy.

When a person with metacognition whole-heartedly commits to journeying in to the 'unconscious mind' in an attempt to map it, they usually find it to turn into a labyrinth of thoughts that won't piece together; it can result in a fairly moderate neuroses (as it has for me on occasions).

But I have made it out, time and time again, and have found that the contents of the unconscious mind can vary completely depending on the outlook one has while approaching it. Although I did not gain the bottom-up foundation for psychology integrated with neurology, I did verify and enhance my understanding of sociology, and quite a bit so.

Sociology is not a pragmatic science, nor does an epistemology exist for it that is able to represent it accurately. Sociology is highly stochastic - as well as highly impartial. It is never entirely consistent in its structure, because it changes.
A persons behavior in a group and thoughts on behavior in a group can fluctuate depending on what is expected of them on a subconscious level; by this mechanism, false sociology can become true sociology merely from people believing it to be true sociology - even though there is no such thing as 'true sociology'.
Human behavior is only deterministic in one aspect: we all generally share a will to live which includes the drive for food, water, shelter, sex, etc..
Sociological determinism beyond that doesn't exist, and what appears to be determinism is often times human consideration for other humans; which, when it comes to advertising, can result in people trying something simply because someone recommended them to try it -- and this is why advertising will always work to an extent. The power of suggestion will always work with a percentage of success; because this is percentage-based, advertising will always result in an exponential promotion of a product or service; this is why advertising has a permanent presence in our modern culture. But this does not guarantee it to be cost-effective, which is what many international and large national corporations have realized over the years. Brands like coca cola, for example, attempt to remain cryptic with their public image, to suggest a seat for it in the subconscious mind as being somehow permanently established in society and irreplaceable. I'm a fan of Coca-Cola actually, not to say anything good or bad about them, but merely using their approach to advertising as an example of modern sociology which has practical application.

Although prevalence of sociological tendencies can not be predicted with certainty (and in some cases, can hardly be predicted at all), the existence of the tendencies themselves can be calculated, in that we can derive the variables involved from the Will to Live -- although we can not give a value for these variables without application.

From the variables however, using nothing but extended algebra and very basic calculus, we can give approximate values for the variables in a group of people based on non-specific data like age and sex of the group members. Essentially, by considering the ratios of the variables as they relate to each other algebraically, we can deduce the presence of more variables, thereby including/discluding them, and then by fitting the ratios together as percentages in the group, we can approximate a range for each of those percentages, and thereby conclude with almost complete certainty whether certain factors are present in any particular member of the group. What are these variables? Any and all dispositions of members in a group pertaining to the will to live. This might include the desire for sex, and the manner in which that desire manifests - as there are finite sub-types of particular drive or perspective, we can use extended algebra to determine which sub-type is occurring in whom, and with a high degree of certainty know the trigger for that subtype.

[Plug Drugs]

Basically what I'm saying is that using basic math and algebra, you don't even need to be able to read minds to predict the behavior of specific individuals in a group with a high level of accuracy -- with the stochastic nature of sociology not only not preventing such a feat, but ensuring its occurrence.

[Plug Drugs]

In small groups, video advertisements can be used to subconsciously lure an individual into a particular mode of thought and emotional responsiveness, then induce feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety, by causing them to revert their sense of social commitment to the initial mode of thought. This is particularly effective in younger small groups of 2-4 where there is a higher number of males than females; it can be used to change public opinion, especially on products, for that age group.

[Autistic Spectrum]

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[Plug Drugs]

Historically such phenomenon would occur on their own in art and entertainment due to the subconscious release of the artist, but are now generally viewed as producing more positive results when formulated independently

[Plug Drugs]

Using focus groups to monitor various bodily processes as they respond to advertisements (such as body temperature, heart rate, dilation of the eyes, fidgetting, muscle tension, etc), the effectiveness of an advertisement in convincing a consumer to buy a product can be continuously refined, as the recorded data will approach a limit to where bodily processes brought to a desired level by the formulated visuals on the screen have the highest correlation with the consumer then choosing to purchase the product

[Plug Drugs]

This could theoretically yield effectiveness as high as 97%, with a 3% rebel/leftist crowd factor (which can also be mitigated subconsiously)

[Plug Drugs]

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[Plug Drugs]

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[Plug Drugs]

allegedly there were laws against it, deeming it an 'invasion of privacy'... but yeah, there aren't

[Plug Drugs]

just be thankful that, for the moment, they still suck at it

[jon]

attempting to read this thread

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[lnopia the great]

plug drugs you fucking suck

[lnopia the great]

hah just kidding man youre great

[lnopia the great]

all of your theories go way off into your abstract fantasy of how the world works or should work and it is quite the waste of time to really have any debate with you

get some real world life experience outside of an urban ghetto

[Plug Drugs]

all of your theories go way off into your abstract fantasy of how the world works or should work and it is quite the waste of time to really have any debate with you

get some real world life experience outside of an urban ghetto

Sometimes i intentionally just go off on a tangent but a lot of the time some of the time all of the time i try to only work with real statistics; usually death and birth statistics tell you exactly whats happening in case they managed to confuse you with light shows and sparklers

[lnopia the great]

what you need to do is stop learning about what makes the world suck and instead learn how to make your life better, because the only impact youre ever going to make is on the people around you not big pharma or corrupt coporate multinationals

[lnopia the great]

love conquers all, man

[Camoron]

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[m0nde]

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[Autistic Spectrum]

on the physics forums they lock plug drugs shitty push gravity threads,, but oh noo, we can't have the same level of forum professionalism at rubynet,, this nonsense should go on at least 5 more pages!!

i'm being sarcastic in case you could not tell

[m0nde]

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[Plug Drugs]

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[Plug Drugs]

what you need to do is stop learning about what makes the world suck and instead learn how to make your life better, because the only impact youre ever going to make is on the people around you not big pharma or corrupt coporate multinationals
if you tolerate a nest of ticks in your home and try to go about your day, you'll come back and it'll be a whole hive

[Plug Drugs]

on the physics forums they lock plug drugs shitty push gravity threads,, but oh noo, we can't have the same level of forum professionalism at rubynet,, this nonsense should go on at least 5 more pages!!

i'm being sarcastic in case you could not tell
i was just impressed i was able to hold my ground at all in an argument against them
I don't think any of them really know how to answer the questions I was asking, and neither do I

[m0nde]

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