ATTN: Lina

[juji]

He’s backpedaling again. Your exceptations are joke.

[clay]

are you trying to talk to max's sister, who doesnt read the forum, about some random person that no one is aware of?

[maks]

max's sister has got the yellow fever

[juji]

Lina can express to defend anything, if she doesnt reply here then it’s yielded

[Lina Goldberg]

Clays post made me laugh I just had to see how you replied lol

[Lina Goldberg]

backpedaling from where my dear?

[juji]

Didnt you read news? Every supporters should read affiliated tv news and websites are not listed as “fake news” by your favorite god emperor.

[Desolation]

Lina you hellfire bitch

[Lina Goldberg]

Lina you hellfire bitch

Just take a look at my rep :smug:

[Lina Goldberg]

Didnt you read news? Every supporters should read affiliated tv news and websites are not listed as “fake news” by your favorite god emperor.

I was watching his speech in Duluth Minnesota

[maks]

I can't support trump anymore now that he stopped sending children to concentration camps

[maks]

I'm a one issue voter the candidate that promises to send children to concentration camps can count on my support every time, I feel so betrayed right now

[juji]

Basically Trump is weaker than Hitler

[clay]

how long did it take for you to get approval to come here, ivan peretz

[Wendy <3]

I want lily gone idk what everyone else wants but i definitely want her gone

[juji]

how long did it take for you to get approval to come here, ivan peretz

10 years

[Cag.]

Elz lied to immigration that he lived in the United States for years!!

[Cag.]

Call ICE immediately lmao

[juji]

Elz lied to immigration that he lived in the United States for years!!

If you don't know what is the constitution, I would be surprised

[Cag.]

Build that wall taco jockey

[juji]

What is atlantic ocean?

[Cag.]

The only vagina you've ever touched is your moms

[juji]

I wonder what are the bill of the rights?

[Cag.]

You got me there

[Certified Lily]

This is my forum don't forget that

maks why did you send me a friend request?

[clay]

This is my forum don't forget that

maks why did you send me a friend request?
ooh a threat

[Certified Lily]

https://i.imgur.com/l5TFIC0.png

[Lina Goldberg]

Basically Trump is weaker than Hitler

Cool

[Certified Lily]

I want lily gone idk what everyone else wants but i definitely want her goneI never banned you wendy I never had access to the panel, then clay took my Admin

[juji]

Cool

Are you going to yield?

[Lina Goldberg]

Yield to what? Celebrity death match Hitler vs trump?

[Lina Goldberg]

https://img.picturelyrics.com/2/676/675797/half-love-never-appealed-to-me-if-your-heart-never-could-yield-to-me-lyric-1.jpg

Let's not forget who yeilded last time

[maks]

This is my forum don't forget that

maks why did you send me a friend request?

cause we're pals

[Cag.]

Yield to what? Celebrity death match Hitler vs trump?

The deaf guy likes to Larp sometimes

[Poopalew]

The deaf guy likes to Larp sometimes

The?

[Lina Goldberg]

I'm a one issue voter the candidate that promises to send children to concentration camps can count on my support every time, I feel so betrayed right now

so true, i pre ordered a brown child skin lampshade and if trump doesn't deliver idk who im gonna vote for probably some nobody like jill stein

[juji]

Let's not forget who yeilded last time

This is an meaningless, I posted a pic Trump as emperor and you didnt defend it.

[Lina Goldberg]

you posted a meme


This is an meaningless

[juji]

Do you think Emperor Trump is a meaningless? I doubt it

[Lina Goldberg]

you wanna debate the emperor trump meme? like it's "brainwashing" people? i've never even seen anyone call him emperor trump except you so i really can't tell if your just talking about a meme.

[Lina Goldberg]

pewdiepie never reviewed this meme, must not be popular lol

[Cag.]

He talks about Trump all the fucking time so annoying

[Lina Goldberg]

People who outright hate trump are most likely projecting something they feel insecure about, like perversions or illegal activity lol

[maks]

you posted a meme

memes literally won this guy the election

[Lina Goldberg]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/414EGlT0aOL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

[maks]

no you're right, the pepe the frog thing never happened and did not tip the neckbeard crowd in favor of the eventual winner of an unbelievably close election

[Lina Goldberg]

So decentralized memes are more dangerous than the mainstream media corporations propaganda machine?

Memes are magick and totally won the election for trump lol

[Lina Goldberg]

The left can't meme!!! Huh maybe because they watch CNN and CNN gets its talking points from the deepstate

[juji]

The left can't meme is so true, besides they make me cringed a lot

[juji]

Lina's real feeling:

https://i.imgur.com/gI1hLtI.png

[maks]

So decentralized memes are more dangerous than the mainstream media corporations propaganda machine?

Memes are magick and totally won the election for trump lol

yes, advertising is dangerous magical propaganda

[maks]

I think lonnie has fucking lost it

[Cag.]

A bunch of Nazi spergs on pol got Trump elected. Lonnie is 100% correct. Trump appeals to young people

[Cag.]

I wonder if Trump will end the war on drugs.

[Poopalew]

I wonder if Trump will end the war on drugs.

You old busy body

[juji]

I wonder if Trump will end the war on drugs.

Wrong, Trump will end the immigration.

[Wendy <3]

I think lonnie has fucking lost it

[Lina Goldberg]

I think lonnie has fucking lost it
lost it, come on dude. i was agreeing with you that memes helped win the election. sorry if i was cryptic, i was just trying to use fun language. i could see how you might have thought i was being sarcastic or something.

[Lina Goldberg]

Lina's real feeling:

https://i.imgur.com/gI1hLtI.png

1. this is wrong and not how i feel at all

2. this isnt a debatable point nor does it contribute to some meme debate we may or may not be engaged in (i can't tell because youre not debating)

3. you suck at posturing- atleast when maks tells me my counterpoint is TLDNR i can agree with him that i could be more clear and concise.

[Lina Goldberg]

https://youtu.be/m5JFwHY7kNo


You try reduce us to the things you know,
which only is what makes your head grow.

[Lina Goldberg]

that soNG FUCKING ROCKS

[Wendy <3]

Have fun in hell lonnie

[Lina Goldberg]

is it too late to start listening to stryper?

[Cag.]

Marks is a """""libertarian""""" who believes in open borders except when it comes to things like his private property. He unironically voted for Gary Johnson and supports Antifa

[Lina Goldberg]

i don't know if any of that is true but as far as hes said to me about the constitution i feel like he may be an absolutist who doesn't care about a pragmatic perspective

[Lina Goldberg]

the disease is a weak border and these guys only want drugs to numb the symptoms like detaining illegal migrants

[juji]

Marks is a """""libertarian""""" who believes in open borders except when it comes to things like his private property. He unironically voted for Gary Johnson and supports Antifa

Wrong. Libertarian is not liberal.

[juji]

Libertarian support smart protected border like drones, sensorial fields, better than primitive idea like the wall that won't stop illegal immigration because outdated technology wont help at all. Libertarians expressed illegal immigrants will earn less than mininum wage and they have no rights. When they catch illegal immigration, they will help them to stop entering the border for consequences, they provide info how to be legal and deport them safely.

Libertarians dont hate the people like Trump supporters who hate the people for being non-white.

[juji]

Libertarian is not left, neither right, it's opposite of authoritarian

[Lina Goldberg]

A libertarian nation would still have borders and enforce an immigration policy. No hate needed.

[Wendy <3]

is it too late to start listening to stryper?

:tdown: go for it

[Lina Goldberg]

OUR Lord Jesus Christ, who hath left power to his favorite metal band to absolve all sinners who truly repent and believe in him, of his great mercy forgive thee thine offences: And by his authority committed to stryper, absolve me from all my sins

[Lina Goldberg]

Libertarian support smart protected border like drones, sensorial fields, better than primitive idea like the wall that won't stop illegal immigration because outdated technology wont help at all. Libertarians expressed illegal immigrants will earn less than mininum wage and they have no rights. When they catch illegal immigration, they will help them to stop entering the border for consequences, they provide info how to be legal and deport them safely.

Libertarians dont hate the people like Trump supporters who hate the people for being non-white.

Libertarians can be pragmatic and support trump and they also belive everyone is at liberty to hate or love whoever you want.

[Lina Goldberg]

so sad we agree on so much and yet we cant see eye to eye...

[Lina Goldberg]

A bunch of Nazi spergs on pol got Trump elected. Lonnie is 100% correct. Trump appeals to young people

Million dollar extreme got trump elected lmao

[maks]

Marks is a """""libertarian""""" who believes in open borders except when it comes to things like his private property. He unironically voted for Gary Johnson and supports Antifa

I despise antifa, fuck you

[maks]

Libertarians can be pragmatic and support trump and they also belive everyone is at liberty to hate or love whoever you want.

trump is an authoritarian he represents everything libertarians oppose

[juji]

Libertarians can be pragmatic and support trump and they also belive everyone is at liberty to hate or love whoever you want.

That's contradiction, Libertarians have nothing to do with religion, sexual preference, familiar relationship and others. Libertarians believe in personal freedom.

[juji]

trump is an authoritarian he represents everything libertarians oppose

This. It makes sense a lot.

[Lina Goldberg]

That's contradiction, Libertarians have nothing to do with religion, sexual preference, familiar relationship and others. Libertarians believe in personal freedom.

The personal freedom to do or feel whatever you want just as long as you're not bothering anyone else. I can be a lesbian defending my psychedelic mushroom garden with military weaponry and worship Lena Dunham goddess of hating men and still be libertarian. No contradiction in fact being a libertarian and believing whatever you want go hand and hand

[Lina Goldberg]

trump is an authoritarian he represents everything libertarians oppose

On the political compass I guess he would be plotted economic authoritarian, I know this might not jive with you but I view him as a populist (tax cuts, employment oppertunity, America first etc...)

[Lina Goldberg]

Is it authoritarian to remove 22 federal regulations for each new one? This brought back industry, lowered unemployment, and gave w8ggle room to lower taxes.

[maks]

Is it authoritarian to remove 22 federal regulations for each new one?

if he does it by executive order then abso-fucking-lutely. I don't care if he's signing an executive order to abolish all laws, pencil wagging is some dictatorial shit

[maks]

"I'm not going through the proper channels and bringing this to congress because it would take too long and they might say no, and obviously I know best"

nope nothing authoritarian about that

[Cag.]

Trump wants to end the federal ban on weed. How the fuck is that authoritian? Lmao

[Lina Goldberg]

if he does it by executive order then abso-fucking-lutely. I don't care if he's signing an executive order to abolish all laws, pencil wagging is some dictatorial shit

https://www.reginfo.gov/public/ the federal agencies enforcing the regulations were created by executive order. its this kinda statement that makes me wanna call you an absolutist- never happy.


"I'm not going through the proper channels and bringing this to congress because it would take too long and they might say no, and obviously I know best"

nope nothing authoritarian about that

what proper channels they are independent federal agencies created by the executive branch. if anything is unconstitutional the SC will deal with it.

[Lina Goldberg]

im sure we all know most agencies were formed through the new deal

[Cag.]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/06/21/trump-asked-nfl-players-for-pardon-suggestions-on-thursday-they-responded/
Man what a big meanie Nazi facist

[Cag.]

And you know what I agree with the niggers on this one. Pardons for drug offenses

[Lina Goldberg]

its gonna take a 'racist' to end the drug war lolol

[Cag.]

I just can't sleep at night knowing about how the 50% Hispanic border agents are tossing little children into death camp bumpstock assault cages. I mean it's been going on for years but I've only began caring until now when it suits my political agenda lol

[Cag.]

I was at the grocery store minding my own business when I was approached by several unkempt white men wearing confederate flags. "Trump has won it's time for kikes like you to go back to Israel." They pelted me with full cases of pbr screaming "heil Trump! Heil Hitler" as I fled to the safety of my car
I was literally shaking and crying. Welcome to Trumps America

[juji]

Trump wants to end the federal ban on weed. How the fuck is that authoritian? Lmao

Trump is absolutely not interested to legalize the drugs, besides he was never interested to solve this insane problem like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch


He is only interested to legalize some stuffs to improve his companies and partners, besides other class of society that he is totally focused to get rid of immigration.

[maks]

Trump wants to end the federal ban on weed. How the fuck is that authoritian? Lmao

he's going to do it while pissing on the constitution

[maks]

https://www.reginfo.gov/public/ the federal agencies enforcing the regulations were created by executive order. its this kinda statement that makes me wanna call you an absolutist- never happy.


now you're starting to understand

[Lina Goldberg]

Trump is absolutely not interested to legalize the drugs, besides he was never interested to solve this insane problem like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch


He is only interested to legalize some stuffs to improve his companies and partners, besides other class of society that he is totally focused to get rid of immigration.

End illegal immigration you silly alarmist. Legalizing marijuana is a good thing, couldn't mention this to the Christians during the campaign. MAGA by any means necessary.

[Lina Goldberg]

Are we gonna do this for the next 6 and a half years?

[Lina Goldberg]

It's not really fun speculating what trumps evil master plan is, can we talk about policy and issues reported on by credible sources?

[Lina Goldberg]

Anyone care about the rosenstein impeechment proceedings , anyone follow DC?

[juji]

End illegal immigration you silly alarmist. Legalizing marijuana is a good thing, couldn't mention this to the Christians during the campaign. MAGA by any means necessary.

Legal or Illegal, doesn't matter, Trump is looking to make immigration laws are more strict and complicated.

[juji]

There a lot of things you dont know how to end immigration, neither Trump doesn't know how to solve. I'm going to give you a hint the cause why immigration happened:

"US Customs and Border Protection won't detect any americans while they carry guns were going to Mexico to sell any people who is going to commit the crime. Eventually Mexican laws are weak for security and provide no protection for future of families from Mexico or different country came to Mexico for crossing the border since US has better laws for public security"

[Cag.]

Don't forget that elz literally lied to immigration about living in the US with his green card lol

[Cag.]

he's going to do it while pissing on the constitution

So he hasn't done anything authoritarian yet but he will :rofl: one day I guess. I'm getting sick of waiting for the real facism to begin

[Wendy <3]

Anyone care about the rosenstein impeechment proceedings , anyone follow DC?

:lolno:

[juji]

Don't forget that elz literally lied to immigration about living in the US with his green card lol

Ive been in California since 2011

[Lina Goldberg]

There a lot of things you dont know how to end immigration, neither Trump doesn't know how to solve.

end immigration? any proof? immigration reform is about ending loopholes like catch and release. im aware the immigration process is diffucult but its not trumps design. its time for strong borders to cut down on criminal activities.


I'm going to give you a hint the cause why immigration happened:

was hoping you were about to quote something you didn't write in broken english.


"US Customs and Border Protection won't detect any americans while they carry guns were going to Mexico to sell any people who is going to commit the crime. Eventually Mexican laws are weak for security and provide no protection for future of families from Mexico or different country came to Mexico for crossing the border since US has better laws for public security"

corrupt mexican law officials are in bed with the anti trump politicians in America. keep resisting trump all you want- once we out the human trafficking syndicate the trump train will arrive in mexico just in time to make it GREAT!

[Cag.]

Sure thing pal lol

[Cag.]

You lived in Mexico in 2016 until you moved to Arizona. You talked about it nonstop lol

[Lina Goldberg]

idk anything about elz and i'm not about to accuse or harass him about this but


People who outright hate trump are most likely projecting something they feel insecure about, like perversions or illegal activity lol

[Cag.]

Not like I care or want to rat you out but funny how you can sit there and talk about immigration when you weaseled your way in here thru deceit like most beaners

[juji]

You lived in Mexico in 2016 until you moved to Arizona. You talked about it nonstop lol


People with green card only have one year, as long as they do not intend to stay outside the country for 1 year or more

[juji]

idk anything about elz and i'm not about to accuse or harass him about this but

False.

Trump insulted the culture, I have nothing to do with illegal actvity.

[juji]

end immigration? any proof? immigration reform is about ending loopholes like catch and release. im aware the immigration process is diffucult but its not trumps design. its time for strong borders to cut down on criminal activities.





Trump wants to get rid of DACA and other things. You know.




was hoping you were about to quote something you didn't write in broken english.



It explains why I never copy paste from other site, I base from my experience why the problem exists.





corrupt mexican law officials are in bed with the anti trump politicians in America. keep resisting trump all you want- once we out the human trafficking syndicate the trump train will arrive in mexico just in time to make it GREAT!



I have never supported human trafficking, they were seeking help to reach the border.

[Lina Goldberg]

False.

Trump insulted the culture, I have nothing to do with illegal actvity.

idk what you mean but he probably insulted ms13 members or something. not false- look at all the meetoo celebrities and pundits like joy reid who curse out trump infront of millions and then get exposed as homophobes racists and sexually abusive. it most commonly applies to people who cultivate a persona or a brand rather than someone being authentic. a generalization that i never specifically painted you as being :smug:

i don't give a fuck about anybody on this forum or how they feel. everyone knows the truth can be the most painful weapon. its not my job to make you feel any way.

[juji]

idk what you mean but he probably insulted ms13 members or something. not false- i look at all the meetoo celebrities and pundits like joy reid who curse out trump infront of millions and then get exposed as homophobes racists and sexually abusive. it most commonly applies to people who cultivate a persona or a brand rather than someone being authentic. a generalization that i never specifically painted you as being :smug:

i don't give a fuck about anybody on this forum or how they feel. everyone knows the truth can be the most painful weapon. its not my job to make you feel any way.


You don't understand, MS13 is not part of culture, I'm going to remind you what Trump did a speech in the podium during the campaign was unprofessional and cringing which are backed by racists and jingoists. It does not represent america.

[Lina Goldberg]

Trump wants to get rid of DACA and other things. You know.

DACA is an executive order- the same thing maks has been complaining about. it can be struck down by any president. we need reform in the LAW.

listen to this SERIOUSLY!!! trump has said many time hes is willing to negotiate ANY concession including naturalization of some 'aliens' in this nation. hes a deal maker and he WON'T back down from the wall and immigration reform. the democrats are obstructing him because THEY ARE CRIMINALS. they use immigration as a MORAL WEDGE ISSUE but THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT SOUTH/CENTRAL AMERICANS- THEY TRAFFICKING THEM!!!!!!!

trump is not racist or hateful. its fucking fake news. AMERICA FIRST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN FUCKED BY OUR LEADERS FOR LIKE A CENTURY!!!!


It explains why I never copy paste from other site, I base from my experience why the problem exists.

i can respect this, sorry but its still kinda difficult for me- honestly.


I have never supported human trafficking, they were seeking help to reach the border.

i know you aren't ignorant to the criminal stuff.

[Lina Goldberg]

You don't understand, MS13 is not part of culture, I'm going to remind you what Trump did a speech in the podium during the campaign was unprofessional and cringing which are backed by racists and jingoists. It does not represent america.

one dimensional view of trump supporters. who cares if a minority are racist- fuck em.

[maks]

So he hasn't done anything authoritarian yet but he will :rofl: one day I guess. I'm getting sick of waiting for the real facism to begin

doing everything by executive order is the constitutionally blessed system of government and isn't dictatorial at all :stare:

[Lina Goldberg]

doing everything by executive order is the constitutionally blessed system of government and isn't dictatorial at all :stare:

do you hate the obstructionists in congress as much as you hate the president?

[juji]

DACA is an executive order- the same thing maks has been complaining about. it can be struck down by any president. we need reform in the LAW.

listen to this SERIOUSLY!!! trump has said many time hes is willing to negotiate ANY concession including naturalization of some 'aliens' in this nation. hes a deal maker and he WON'T back down from the wall and immigration reform. the democrats are obstructing him because THEY ARE CRIMINALS. they use immigration as a MORAL WEDGE ISSUE but THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT SOUTH/CENTRAL AMERICANS- THEY TRAFFICKING THEM!!!!!!!

trump is not racist or hateful. its fucking fake news. AMERICA FIRST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN FUCKED BY OUR LEADERS FOR LIKE A CENTURY!!!!




If he is willing to negotiate any concession, what the changes will be? the decline of immigration in the workforce? more steveyos?





i can respect this, sorry but its still kinda difficult for me- honestly.




Sometimes it's hard to interpret the problem may prevent the progress.





i know you aren't ignorant to the criminal stuff.


I'm neutral, I do not bring immigrants to the country or to deport the immigrants since it's not my problem, my real problem is when Trump wont shut the fuck up and he's misbehaving like 13 years old kid smartass racist, when I go to workout in Gym, I hate to see Trump is on TV screen everyday.

[maks]

do you hate the obstructionists in congress as much as you hate the president?

obstructionists my ass, the republicans control both houses they'd hand him whatever the fuck he asked for. and yes, I hate everyone in the government, duh. christ can you imagine if some faggot was in here actually defending politicians? that would probably be the gayest shit I have ever seen.

[juji]

Republican obstructionism is the master of NO

[juji]

Or perhaps the master of Go fuck yourself

[maks]

Republican obstructionism is the master of NO

maybe when obama was president, since trump was elected they give him p much everything he wants so it's strange that he doesn't even give lip service to the system and does everything via executive order, it's like he's cosplaying as mussolini or something

[juji]

How DARE he bad-mouth Trump? I will send a bundle of 882 lbs bombs over house of the faggot who badmouthed Trump, I DO NOT FUCKING care what is in our territory, do as I say, RESPECT MY AUTHORITY, TRUMP GRANTED ME I CAN MAKE ORDERS YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

[juji]

It would be a fantasy imaginary of an obstructionist

[maks]

gee mr out of touch government asshole you sure are dreamy can I cradle your balls for you while you hate fuck me <3

[maks]

ooooooo mr guy from the apprentice, sign more executive orders, I love a man who's decisive enough to completely disregard the constitutionally defined process :swoon:

[juji]

Oh my god that guy with orange skin and the mighty hair, when I hear what he says, I get goosebumps and unexcepted boner, even he signs another executive order, I instantly cum without hands. :shock::shock::flag::flag::shock::shock:

[Lina Goldberg]

obstructionists my ass, the republicans control both houses they'd hand him whatever the fuck he asked for. and yes, I hate everyone in the government, duh. christ can you imagine if some faggot was in here actually defending politicians? that would probably be the gayest shit I have ever seen.

Democrats can push short term delays in the process of confirming trumps nominations. apparently you hold a stronger bias against trump than all the other politicians you supposedly hate

[Lina Goldberg]

If he is willing to negotiate any concession, what the changes will be? the decline of immigration in the workforce? more steveyos?

idk aliens who haven't been arrested can be given citizenship so they don't have to live like domestic servants. also we get a strong border and reduction of gang activities in ghetto communities

[Lina Goldberg]

ooooooo mr guy from the apprentice, sign more executive orders, I love a man who's decisive enough to completely disregard the constitutionally defined process :swoon:

can't drain the swamp without taking action my friend

[Lina Goldberg]

I hate everyone in the government, duh. christ can you imagine if some faggot was in here actually defending politicians? that would probably be the gayest shit I have ever seen.


why are you guys so desperate to let others control every aspect of your life I seriously am so lucky to have the brain that I do man fuck I feel so bad for you guys arguing over which person who isn't even any smarter than you guys is better even though they're all garbage, you're all just a bunch of dumb animals ya know it just sucks I need everyone to evolve before you guys actually do take the planet out




whats a man to do maks? vote hillary? do nothing? your basically just trying to troll me because your outlook is basically nihilistic

[Wendy <3]

Not like I care or want to rat you out but funny how you can sit there and talk about immigration when you weaseled your way in here thru deceit like most beaners

Is the racism really necessary

[juji]

https://i.imgur.com/IJHSw4Y.png

lmao

[clay]

how long did it take from the time you applied for a visa until the time you were allotted one, elezark

[juji]

Who invented "separate kids from their parents"? Trump said were the democrats, also they were protecting MS-13

[juji]

how long did it take from the time you applied for a visa until the time you were allotted one, elezark

I think it was one year, but not sure, I dont remember well

[clay]

I think it was one year, but not sure, I dont remember well

did you have any special dispensation based on your disability or was this the normal process

[juji]

did you have any special dispensation based on your disability or was this the normal process

Normal process while im accompanied with a family member

[clay]

if you can receive a visa within 1-2 years while remaining in your home country, then why should other people just be able to jump the border and do whatever they want?

[juji]

if you can receive a visa within 1-2 years while remaining in your home country, then why should other people just be able to jump the border and do whatever they want?

Not my problem

[clay]

so how can you argue that we should allow these people in when its obvious that they just couldnt do the proper thing such as yourself

[juji]

so how can you argue that we should allow these people in when its obvious that they just couldnt do the proper thing such as yourself

I followed the immigration laws after all, besides these people may have ignored them for some reason since they were looking opportunites such as job, future, families, etc. but not at all, any opportunity can involve crimes, human trafficking, etc. we do not know how to detected they are criminals or not, everything it's up to ICE.

[Lina Goldberg]

Not my problem

The govt isn't our mother, these people are undocumented. No way to tell gang members from asylum seekers.

The dilemma is how do you be nice to people breaking your law, while still arresting the worst criminals. You can't.

If you concider yourself American then it's just as much your problem as it is ours.

[maks]

whats a man to do maks? vote hillary? do nothing? your basically just trying to troll me because your outlook is basically nihilistic

begrudgingly accept the system when the people in power toe the line, bitch on the internet when they don't, and never ever mess your pants fanboying about them they're you're goddamn senpai? seems p easy tbh

[maks]

Democrats can push short term delays in the process of confirming trumps nominations. apparently you hold a stronger bias against trump than all the other politicians you supposedly hate

he's the guy who wanted to be president, he accepted that job and everything that comes with it, including being a lightning rod for my hate

[maks]

can't drain the swamp without taking action my friend

explain how writing love letters to a politician you've never met qualifies as taking action

[maks]

if you can receive a visa within 1-2 years while remaining in your home country, then why should other people just be able to jump the border and do whatever they want?

because withoput a slave class to exploit our economy would collapse. neither side actually wants to end illegal immigration, trump is just giving lip service to it to keep the racist dickhole red hats on his side.

[clay]

i like how people who are claiming to need asylum to get away from human trafficking are giving money to human traffickers to get them here and allowing themselves to be trafficked

[maks]

I like how if they didn't do that we'd be paying 3x as much for produce

[clay]

californias agricultural industry was traditionally harvested by seasonal workers who would go back and forth across the country from season to season, as well as blacks. it put those people out of work. now you've got the seasonal workers doing heroin in the streets of san francisco and the blacks slowly migrating north

[maks]

those people are out of work because they're legal citizens who have the leverage to demand minimum wage and if the growers were forced to pay minimum wage (drumroll please) the price of produce would triple.

[maks]

nobody talks about the slave class that illegal immigration provides, some people even pretend they want to end it (though never for the right reasons), but we all benefit from it and we'd all be equally fucked without it. we could have sealed off the mexican border decades ago if anyone actually wanted to, they didn't then and they don't now. trump "doing something" about it is all a big show.

[clay]

i assure you that agricultural workers are making more than minimum wage, both legal and illegal. a lot of what would rise would be cheap clothes. if your $7 shirt was made in america, it was made by a spic looking over their shoulder for la migra

[clay]

to give you some background from my life, most of the illegal immigrants ive known or worked with were paid similar wages. min wage in texas was probably $5.15/hr when these were going on.

ag workers usually made around $10/hr
construction/framing/roofing guys usually made $14-16/hr
cooks typically made minimum wage, "chef's" made $10/hr.

the idea that they dont get paid a similar wage is bullshit. where the employer saves money is insurance, taxes, 401k, health benefits, and not having to pay into various funds like unemployment

[Lina Goldberg]

explain how writing love letters to a politician you've never met qualifies as taking action

This is what I mean by posturing. When have I ever wrote a love letter to trump? I'm trying to debate els, you chime in prolly cuz it triggers you that he sucks at tearing down trump, and when I counter point you call me a fag. Very mature buddy, lol

[maks]

they're usually paid by the number of cartons they pick so it's tough to say what that is hourly but 12 hours a day for $10k a year sure doesn't sound like minimum wage to me

[clay]

they're usually paid by the number of cartons they pick so it's tough to say what that is hourly but 12 hours a day for $10k a year sure doesn't sound like minimum wage to me

thats how legals are paid too. agriculture has some fucked up laws and in many cases there is no federal minimum wage of overtime for agricultural workers. someone might be working 12 hours a day and making 10k per year, but theyre only working that job for 3-4 months

[maks]

When have I ever wrote a love letter to trump?


This entire thread, and the other thread, and probably some others I'm forgetting, and that fanfic you wrote where you and trump went on a romantic picnic and made love on top of mount rushmore




prolly cuz it triggers you that he sucks at tearing down trump,


elz is doing a far better job defending my side than cag is doing defending yours "ROFL look at marks the fake libertarian, can you believe he wants to follow the constitution and limit federal power??"




and when I counter point you call me a fag. Very mature buddy, lol


If it bothers you then stop being a fag I guess?

[Lina Goldberg]

nobody talks about the slave class that illegal immigration provides, some people even pretend they want to end it (though never for the right reasons), but we all benefit from it and we'd all be equally fucked without it. we could have sealed off the mexican border decades ago if anyone actually wanted to, they didn't then and they don't now. trump "doing something" about it is all a big show.

What about talking about the enormous amount of wealth hemorrhaging from our nation into the slush funds of post national authorities.

Billions could be invested into future agro tech, allowing the localization of food production nation wide

[maks]

the idea that they dont get paid a similar wage is bullshit. where the employer saves money is insurance, taxes, 401k, health benefits, and not having to pay into various funds like unemployment

so lets throw the employers and their children into concentration camps, no jobs no illegals, problem solved

[maks]

Billions could be invested into future agro tech, allowing the localization of food production nation wide

If there was a market for that someone would be exploiting it, that's how capitalism works

if you're suggesting the government should be investing billions, they shouldn't, fuck you.

[Lina Goldberg]

This entire thread, and the other thread, and probably some others I'm forgetting, and that fanfic you wrote where you and trump went on a romantic picnic and made love on top of mount rushmore




elz is doing a far better job defending my side than cag is doing defending yours "ROFL look at marks the fake libertarian, can you believe he wants to follow the constitution and limit federal power??"





If it bothers you then stop being a fag I guess?

Doesn't bother me just calling you out

[Lina Goldberg]

If there was a market for that someone would be exploiting it, that's how capitalism works

What about coal oil and gold industries killing scientists who research these new technologies?

[Lina Goldberg]

so lets throw the employers and their children into concentration camps, no jobs no illegals, problem solved

Can you explain what you mean by no jobs? Unemployment is at an all time low for many demographics

[maks]

What about coal oil and gold industries killing scientists who research these new technologies?

what about the alien lizard people living in alex jones' ass crack, they're about as relevant to agriculture as the coal oil and gold industries are

[clay]

most of the current illegal immigrants are coming from places south of mexico. theyre walking, taking buses, and then most of them at some point are getting into the back of 18 wheelers.

you think 2 months of that is less torturous to a child than 2 months of being in what's basically a daycare? the parents are making the extremely poor decision to put their kid through all of that, not anyone else. we don't give them a pass once they hit the border just because they have a kid. if someone comes here with an actual asylum case, let's hear it. practically every person coming here with a child in tow is coming because obama said if you have a kid, come on in. domestic violence isnt a fucking asylum qualifier. if you got hit in honduras, you're going to get hit here. you are not an albino from zaire who will possibly be murdered there, and then won't be murdered here. you are not a queer from russia who will get beaten there, and probably won't get beaten here.

why in the world should we be accepting immigrants who are dumb enough to put their children in a position where they have a 60% chance of being raped, beaten, or murdered? we dont want morons like that, let them walk back home

[maks]

Can you explain what you mean by no jobs? Unemployment is at an all time low for many demographics

if you prosecute people for hiring illegals they will not hire illegals. if there are no jobs for illegals they will stop illegaling. lets throw some white people in jail for a change, they broke the law didn't they?

[clay]

if you prosecute people for hiring illegals they will not hire illegals. if there are no jobs for illegals they will stop illegaling. lets throw some white people in jail for a change, they broke the law didn't they?

people get prosecuted for it all the time. but the cost/benefit analysis a lot of people do in their own minds leads them to keep hiring illegals. same reason people steal from walmart, do drugs, rape, murder, cheat on their taxes, whatever

[maks]

most of the current illegal immigrants are coming from places south of mexico. theyre walking, taking buses, and then most of them at some point are getting into the back of 18 wheelers.

you think 2 months of that is less torturous to a child than 2 months of being in what's basically a daycare? the parents are making the extremely poor decision to put their kid through all of that, not anyone else. we don't give them a pass once they hit the border just because they have a kid. if someone comes here with an actual asylum case, let's hear it. practically every person coming here with a child in tow is coming because obama said if you have a kid, come on in. domestic violence isnt a fucking asylum qualifier. if you got hit in honduras, you're going to get hit here. you are not an albino from zaire who will possibly be murdered there, and then won't be murdered here. you are not a queer from russia who will get beaten there, and probably won't get beaten here.

why in the world should we be accepting immigrants who are dumb enough to put their children in a position where they have a 60% chance of being raped, beaten, or murdered? we dont want morons like that, let them walk back home

if we prosecuted the employers, threw them in jail, shut down their operations, there would be no one to hire illegals and they'd stop sneaking in, problem solved no wall necessary just enforcement of existing law. History has shown the illegals don't shed a tear over deportation, it's an inconvenience but they just pay another coyote to bring them right back in. I'll bet some rich agriculture mogul would feel the pain if you shut down his business and sent him to prison, though. probably wouldn't take more than a couple of high profile cases to shut the whole thing down.

[clay]

i'd also like to point out that you are correct about the slave labor market, canada does it too. you go up there and all of the low skilled workers are from what used to be india.

but those people arent going around in mass numbers robbing, murdering, dealing, and causing chaos. the current culture of many south american countries, which the populace accepts, is disgusting. they want to move here to avoid cartel crime but they bring the crime with them because it's within their own attitudes. these people have been given generations to affect change in their own countries and they dont bother

[maks]

people get prosecuted for it all the time. but the cost/benefit analysis a lot of people do in their own minds leads them to keep hiring illegals. same reason people steal from walmart, do drugs, rape, murder, cheat on their taxes, whatever

hiring illegals saves enough to easily pay the fines when they get snagged, and they go right back to what they were doing. take their business away and throw them and their children in concentration camps. send a message. white people scare easier.

[clay]

if we prosecuted the employers, threw them in jail, shut down their operations, there would be no one to hire illegals and they'd stop sneaking in, problem solved no wall necessary just enforcement of existing law. History has shown the illegals don't shed a tear over deportation, it's an inconvenience but they just pay another coyote to bring them right back in. I'll bet some rich agriculture mogul would feel the pain if you shut down his business and sent him to prison, though. probably wouldn't take more than a couple of high profile cases to shut the whole thing down.

happens all the time, ive seen it happen. if the company gets shut down, another moves into that spot and does the same thing. our government resources are being decimated by the illegals moving here and sucking them dry. if you come here illegally, get a job, work, pay taxes, dont commit crimes: awesome. you should be fast tracked to legal immigrant status if you can prove these things. if you come here illegally and use government resources to prop up your 14 child family, get the fuck out. it's not anyones job to support all of these fucking roaches breeding like crazy. we cant help that we have natural citizens doing it, thats our burden as a society. it is not our burden to accept other nations burdens

[clay]

to make this more microrelevant, how many times have you been hit and run by an illegal immigrant, mark?

[juji]

There are 3 reasons why the assholes who dont understand capitalist economy and gov opportunites:



Trump supporters complain "Immigrants steal the jobs" this is the pathetic excuse because they dont have own business. It's up to private companies decide to hire whom.
Federal Governement won't hire americans who used the drugs.
Lazy americans like steveyos who born in the US are hurting the economy and eventually they will bring new technology to replace human workers.

[maks]

happens all the time, ive seen it happen. if the company gets shut down, another moves into that spot and does the same thing. our government resources are being decimated by the illegals moving here and sucking them dry. if you come here illegally, get a job, work, pay taxes, dont commit crimes: awesome. you should be fast tracked to legal immigrant status if you can prove these things. if you come here illegally and use government resources to prop up your 14 child family, get the fuck out. it's not anyones job to support all of these fucking roaches breeding like crazy. we cant help that we have natural citizens doing it, thats our burden as a society. it is not our burden to accept other nations burdens

if a few thousand people can decimate our government resources than those resources are badly run or underfunded and need to be revamped or eliminated. most of them ought to be eliminated.

[maks]

to make this more microrelevant, how many times have you been hit and run by an illegal immigrant, mark?

exactly zero, and I live like 10 minutes from a sanctuary city

[maks]

It's like we're in a river of shit, in a boat with a hole in it, and everyone is arguing about whether we should fix the hole or grab the buckets and bail, and I'm the only guy who's like "hey assholes, the dock is right there, lets just get out"

[clay]

There are 3 reasons why the assholes who dont understand capitalist economy and gov opportunites:



Trump supporters complain "Immigrants steal the jobs" this is the pathetic excuse because they dont have own business. It's up to private companies decide to hire whom.
Federal Governement won't hire americans who used the drugs.
Lazy americans like steveyos who born in the US are hurting the economy and eventually they will bring new technology to replace human workers.


this is a really pathetic attempt at pushing aside peoples issue with illegal immigration. i dont care very much about the "job taking" aspect. i care about the crime, the cultural shift toward the acceptance of that crime, the sucking dry of government resources, and other things.

if you have a town of 5000 people and the local government is just making enough off taxes, what happens when illegals come? say 1000 mexicans show up because of a new factory. 500 pay taxes, 500 dont. now you have a town that can support 5500 people, but is populated by 6000 people. not enough cops for the amount of crime, not enough hospital space, the roads turn to shit. the roads will get fucked up 10% quicker. that means if this little rural town paved their roads every 6 years, now you get to drive on a shitty ass road for 6 months longer because of MEXICANS

[clay]

exactly zero, and I live like 10 minutes from a sanctuary city

ive been hit by 4. ive had illegals have gun fights in front of me, fist fights, knife fights. when i wsa a kid there were some immigrants running from the border patrol through my back yard, they stopped to have a fist fight, and then got caught by the agents. thats how moronic these people are. they are successfully evading capture and then they have to fight eachother. i saw a mexican run a car off the road and shoot it up because he didnt like that his ex girlfriend(of 2 weeks) was at a club with 4 guys. i chased him while getting shot at until he decided to drive in front of an oncoming train. after all that, the mexican slut decided she wasnt going to talk to the police. they LOVE being abused and go back to it over and over. i dont want this shit to grow and grow

[juji]

The govt isn't our mother, these people are undocumented. No way to tell gang members from asylum seekers.

The dilemma is how do you be nice to people breaking your law, while still arresting the worst criminals. You can't.

If you concider yourself American then it's just as much your problem as it is ours.



Neither my problem, it's up to ICE. I disagree about considering american ourselves with this problem, if there a problem is mine, I would suggest them to catch the racists and the neo-nazis are supposed to be in the prison because they are considered as enemies of the united states for example: Nazi Germany and The Confederates.
Also death penalty is acceptable to reduce the population since they are not real humans.

[maks]

How much of your tax money goes to supporting people like stevey, natural born citizens who've never contributed anything at all? what percentage of illegals are a better deal for us than he is? high 90's?

[juji]

ive been hit by 4. ive had illegals have gun fights in front of me, fist fights, knife fights. when i wsa a kid there were some immigrants running from the border patrol through my back yard, they stopped to have a fist fight, and then got caught by the agents. thats how moronic these people are. they are successfully evading capture and then they have to fight eachother. i saw a mexican run a car off the road and shoot it up because he didnt like that his ex girlfriend(of 2 weeks) was at a club with 4 guys. i chased him while getting shot at until he decided to drive in front of an oncoming train. after all that, the mexican slut decided she wasnt going to talk to the police. they LOVE being abused and go back to it over and over. i dont want this shit to grow and grow

Translation: black people, except one who is running.

[clay]

elezark left mexico because mexico sucks. there is nothing wrong with the land or placement of mexico, so it is the people. the people are what sucks about these countries. what's wrong with puerto rico, we practically consider it a paradise. the fucking people are what's wrong

[clay]

How much of your tax money goes to supporting people like stevey, natural born citizens who've never contributed anything at all? what percentage of illegals are a better deal for us than he is? high 90's?

the difference is that we literally cant do anything about steveys. we can stop steveys from other countries coming here, though

[maks]

ive been hit by 4. ive had illegals have gun fights in front of me, fist fights, knife fights. when i wsa a kid there were some immigrants running from the border patrol through my back yard, they stopped to have a fist fight, and then got caught by the agents. thats how moronic these people are. they are successfully evading capture and then they have to fight eachother. i saw a mexican run a car off the road and shoot it up because he didnt like that his ex girlfriend(of 2 weeks) was at a club with 4 guys. i chased him while getting shot at until he decided to drive in front of an oncoming train. after all that, the mexican slut decided she wasnt going to talk to the police. they LOVE being abused and go back to it over and over. i dont want this shit to grow and grow

I'll tell you what I'd tell a guy from compton complaining about the bloods and crips, fucking move.

[clay]

I'll tell you what I'd tell a guy from compton complaining about the bloods and crips, fucking move.

unlike the wetbacks, i would prefer to stay where i live and make it a better place. if i have to hunt down a fucking beaner and run him over with my car to do that, i will

[maks]

the difference is that we literally cant do anything about steveys. we can stop steveys from other countries coming here, though

we can stop pretending that being born here makes one special somehow, open the borders, end welfare, and let anyone who wants to take a shot sink or swim on their own. when stevey starves to death on the street the problem takes care of itself.

[clay]

we can stop pretending that being born here makes one special somehow, open the borders, end welfare, and let anyone who wants to take a shot sink or swim on their own. when stevey starves to death on the street the problem takes care of itself.

that works really well in africa

[maks]

unlike the wetbacks, i would prefer to stay where i live and make it a better place. if i have to hunt down a fucking beaner and run him over with my car to do that, i will

I'd prefer if allison hannigan came over and blew me once a night, instead I date yuppies in their early 30's, because I live in the real world

[maks]

that works really well in africa

africa is a big place and some of the countries there are thriving, you're going to have to be more specific

[juji]

elezark left mexico because mexico sucks. there is nothing wrong with the land or placement of mexico, so it is the people. the people are what sucks about these countries. what's wrong with puerto rico, we practically consider it a paradise. the fucking people are what's wrong

I agree Mexico sucks because americans are bringing guns to Mexico to sell there. Eventually when I become an american, I get funds and I may hire private security to protect my company in Mexico.

[clay]

and yet i have run over mexicans with my car before. you thought that was hyperbole.

[clay]

I agree Mexico sucks because americans are bringing guns to Mexico to sell there. Eventually when I become an american, I get funds and I may hire private security to protect my company in Mexico.

im pretty sure mexico sucks because every level of government is corrupt, straight down to the voters. the guns are just an accessory to the problem

[maks]

I agree Mexico sucks because americans are bringing guns to Mexico to sell there. Eventually when I become an american, I get funds and I may hire private security to protect my company in Mexico.

the american drug war literally created the cartels, but I'm sure that more government is the solution, it's worked so well in the past

[juji]

im pretty sure mexico sucks because every level of government is corrupt, straight down to the voters. the guns are just an accessory to the problem

Like someone would shoot the teacher and their mates in the school. Most of them aren't children of illegal immigrants.

[Cag.]

The problem with Mexico is the war on drugs lol. We've opened up a nice little black market with cartels. That's why people are leaving. End the war of drugs by decriminalizing

[Cag.]

And build bigger wall. Lmao

[clay]

the cartels were already there, but the american war on drugs pumped money into them.

the same happened with prohibition. the mobs already existed, our government just gave them a brand new source of income. and then our government waged war on them. enough of a war that they decided to change how they operated. mexico doesn't do shit to the cartels.

[clay]

Like someone would shoot the teacher and their mates in the school. Most of them aren't children of illegal immigrants.

go add up how many people have died in school shootings over the history of the united states and let me know if it exceeds cartel deaths for any 3 month period in the past 10 years.

[maks]

the cartels were already there, but the american war on drugs pumped money into them.

the same happened with prohibition. the mobs already existed, our government just gave them a brand new source of income. and then our government waged war on them. enough of a war that they decided to change how they operated. mexico doesn't do shit to the cartels.

yes more government is the answer. we're back on the rover of shit, except this time we're bailing shitwater *into* the boat. hey guys I've been thinking about this hole in the boat, the one that's making us sink, how about if I shoot it with a rocket launcher that will probably help right?

[juji]

the american drug war literally created the cartels, but I'm sure that more government is the solution, it's worked so well in the past

Christhian people like senators and other politicians banned the drugs as they banned alcohol in 20's and weed in the border which could create more problems, since when gov was like mother?

[clay]

yes more government is the answer. we're back on the rover of shit, except this time we're bailing shitwater *into* the boat. hey guys I've been thinking about this hole in the boat, the one that's making us sink, how about if I shoot it with a rocket launcher that will probably help right?

it doesn't require more government. the apparatus is already there, it exists currently.

[maks]

The problem with Mexico is the war on drugs lol. We've opened up a nice little black market with cartels. That's why people are leaving. End the war of drugs by decriminalizing

decriminalizing doesn't go far enough. the majority of drugs need to be fully legalized and legitimized.

[maks]

since when gov was like mother?

since people like lonnie started trusting them and developing schoolgirl crushes on them.

[juji]

decriminalizing doesn't go far enough. the majority of drugs need to be fully legalized and legitimized.

Yep, fully legalized like tobacco and beers, if Cag is intoxicated, I'm pretty sure is not our problem, maybe her stupidity does.

[maks]

it doesn't require more government. the apparatus is already there, it exists currently.

using your own example of the mobs during prohibition, it led to the creation of a whole new federal arm of law enforcement, the fbi, currently employs 35,000 people on your dime, and the RICO statutes which strengthen the powers of law enforcement agencies and the office of the prosecutor. it sure took a lot of new government and a lot of new government power to solve a problem that new government created.

[clay]

using your own example of the mobs during prohibition, it led to the creation of a whole new federal arm of law enforcement, the fbi, currently employs 35,000 people on your dime, and the RICO statutes which strengthen the powers of law enforcement agencies and the office of the prosecutor. it sure took a lot of new government and a lot of new government power to solve a problem that new government created.

i assumed you were going to bring this up. a lot of the people who joined the fbi were actually already employed by the united states government in some form of law enforcement, they were already there.

but what i wanted to show you were some numbers.

mexico:

128 million people
760,000 sq mi
500,000 police
1 cop for every 256 people
1 cop for every 1.52 square miles

united states:

326 million people
3,800,000 sq mi
765,000 police
1 cop for every 426 people
1 cop for every 4.96 square miles


mexico has practically double the police force per capita and per square mile coverage that the united states does. aside from that, mexico border patrol and full time active military are also used basically as police agents against drug involved persons. when i've been to mexico, i get harassed by the military constantly. they have no qualm with using their military against the population. so that actually means they have even more police units per sq. mi. and population.

but still they fail. corruption, ignorance, plain incompetence. hispanics are about 8 IQ points dumber, on average, than whites... maybe they just cant figure it out and keep throwing numbers at the problem

[clay]

the fbi was also started way before prohibition, but i believe it was expanded significantly under that time. so i didn't argue the point

[maks]

that's actually the problem. they have a billion employees with little to no oversight just kind of doing their own thing, that's like a petri dish for corruption. the fbi organized thousands of people under one banner with a tight leash. mexico needs to fire 60% of its police and find someone with some balls to reign in the ones that are left, a real fascist asshole like j edgar hoover. if you're going to grow government at least give up the pretense of maintaining a free society and do it right.

[clay]

by the way i believe everything i am saying, this isnt a troll. illegal immigration, regardless of the origination, is going to drag society down. it happened with the irish, it happened with the italians, it happened with the puerto ricans, and now its happening with the central americans. the only mass group of immigrants that didnt seem to bring this country down were the germans. but i could be wrong about that

[clay]

that's actually the problem. they have a billion employees with little to no oversight just kind of doing their own thing, that's like a petri dish for corruption. the fbi organized thousands of people under one banner with a tight leash. mexico needs to fire 60% of its police and find someone with some balls to reign in the ones that are left, a real fascist asshole like j edgar hoover. if you're going to grow government at least give up the pretense of maintaining a free society and do it right.

incompetence. they run their country into the ground, so they send their citizens here to make money and send remittances back down the pipeline. then that money gets spent in mexico/wherever and props up their economy in the short term. literal parasite economy

[clay]

and to add in, yes it happened with the white anglo saxon protestants. there just didnt happen to be a united states back then. but they came over, took natural resources, fucked with the locals, whatever. it happens no matter the race or location

[maks]

this is the safest time in american history, crime especially violent crime is at an all time low the wars we keep starting haven't come back to bite us in the ass yet, everything alright, but still we live in fear, maybe more than ever, and everyone even reasonable people are screaming together with one voice 'please daddy government, please protect me, please kiss my boo boos and read me a story and tell me the mean brown people won't hurt me anymore' and they're giving the feds unprecedented new powers and joyfully doing their part to build and strengthen their real enemy

[clay]

this isnt the safest time in our history

[juji]

Any country from latin america where the corruption dominates. Not only in Mexico, also it applies in Colombia, Brazil, etc.

The problem is "Institution" no one can take as leader in the governement, they are being too selective.

[clay]

violent crime was lower and then started to rise in the 60's:

https://i.imgur.com/1ZdiFak.png

hmm interesting:


Emigration from Mexico began timidly about a century ago, but experienced a significant increase since the 1960s.

[clay]

i dont get it. mobs were already here, drugs were already here, our general population set was already here, guns were already here. what changed en masse in the 60's, i just dont know...

[maks]

this isnt the safest time in our history

that isn't what the statistics say, anecdotally it probably seems that way because you refuse to leave an area in decline due to your buford pusser complex

[clay]

https://i.imgur.com/HFKROhY.png

https://i.imgur.com/W4zBctR.png

https://i.imgur.com/WRNV9Fd.png

[juji]

In 70's is when Martin Luther King Jr. is assassinated.

In 70's is when the hippies demand more drugs.

In 70's is when they used cocaine for first time.

In 70's is when the women earn more sexier also more rapes.

In 70's is when the serial killers are booming.

In 70's is when urban gentrification exists.

[maks]

please daddy government, please protect me, please kiss my boo boos and read me a story and tell me the mean brown people won't hurt me anymore




please daddy government, please protect me, please kiss my boo boos and read me a story and tell me the mean brown people won't hurt me anymore




please daddy government, please protect me, please kiss my boo boos and read me a story and tell me the mean brown people won't hurt me anymore

[juji]

I admire maks is only american who takes care of himself like any mexican is surrounded by criminals in Mexico.

[clay]

In 70's is when Martin Luther King Jr. is assassinated.

In 70's is when the hippies demand more drugs.

In 70's is when they used cocaine for first time.

In 70's is when the women earn more sexier also more rapes.

In 70's is when the serial killers are booming.

In 70's is when urban gentrification exists.

king was killed in 1968 along with rfk jr., moron

hippies were from the 60's, moron. the altamont free concert of 1969 is generally agreed upon as the end of the hippy era.

so sherlock holmes didnt do cocaine 60 years earlier, you're right. moron.

women started dressing like whores way before the 70s, idiot.

im not mentally deranged, so i dont know much about serial killers.

the 70s is actually when people were leaving urban centers. just die

[juji]

Unlike other americans like Clay, Lina and Cag were victims from just one criminal brown people, then they generalize all brown people are the same.

Because they do not believe in individualism.

[maks]

The founders never intended for Americans to trust their government. Our entire constitution was predicated on the notion that government was a necessary evil, to be restrained and minimized as much as possible. So lets say Trump is right. Lets say everything he does is going to be a net gain and touch all our lives in positive ways. The fact that there's 3 people in this thread lauding him, defending him, admiring him, a fucking politician, it actually makes me physically ill.

[clay]

wow look at this illegal immigrant apprehension chart. it tracks abnormally close to the violent crime rate:

https://i.imgur.com/f5VHRom.png

[clay]

The founders never intended for Americans to trust their government. Our entire constitution was predicated on the notion that government was a necessary evil, to be restrained and minimized as much as possible. So lets say Trump is right. Lets say everything he does is going to be a net gain and touch all our lives in positive ways. The fact that there's 3 people in this thread lauding him, defending him, admiring him, a fucking politician, it actually makes me physically ill.

straw man, i havent said shit about trump. what i want is for people who think they can come freeload to get a nice hammer to the knees and a long walk back home.

also check out that chart i just posted that practically mirrors the violent crime charts..............

[maks]

straw man, i havent said shit about trump. what i want is for people who think they can come freeload to get a nice hammer to the knees and a long walk back home.

also check out that chart i just posted that practically mirrors the violent crime charts..............

do you trust the government to solve this problem? has that level of trust changed now that donald trump is at the helm?

[clay]

do you trust the government to solve this problem? has that level of trust changed now that donald trump is at the helm?

you advocated for open border. how exactly would we open borders without government intervention?

[juji]

king was killed in 1968 along with rfk jr., moron

hippies were from the 60's, moron. the altamont free concert of 1969 is generally agreed upon as the end of the hippy era.

so sherlock holmes didnt do cocaine 60 years earlier, you're right. moron.

women started dressing like whores way before the 70s, idiot.

im not mentally deranged, so i dont know much about serial killers.

the 70s is actually when people were leaving urban centers. just die



1968 is too near to 70's, are you just telling me moron why I didn't say Martin died in 80's?


Hippies from 60's are known as early hippies, then it's completely propagated in 70's


Not only Sherlock Holmes, it was used by incas in Peru, they chew with coca leaves. I mean the hippies demanded more drugs including cocaine.


Before the 70's, no woman is more sexier without thong.


If you don't know who are serial killers, are you not trying to say they are white? shame on you.


I don't think you understand about urban gentrification, would you mind to explain what happened the decline of Detroit? If you try to say it was mexicans, you're thinking wrong, I'm not trying to defend mexicans since California is full of mexicans then never happened like decline of Detroit.

[maks]

you advocated for open border. how exactly would we open borders without government intervention?

fire the thousands of border control agents, shutter ICE, end welfare and social security and return the taxpayers their money

[maks]

government action is acceptable if it's being used to shrink government.

[clay]

the reason we have decades is to denote a period of time, you cant say the 80s were close enough to the 90s to be the 90s. $4 isnt close enough to $5 to become $5.
- you are wrong

you're making shit up about early hippies. altamont free concert, 1969, end of the hippie era. use google
- you are wrong

coca leaves are not cocaine, plus you're just proving that you were incorrect in your previous statement. why?
- you are wrong

thongs have existed for thousands of years, even men wore/wear them. you're thinking of the bikini, which became popular in the 60's.
- you are wrong

i have no idea what you're trying to say here about serial killers
- you are fucking weird

detroit declined for a few reasons, but one of them was the literal opposite of urban gentrification. people were moving out of the city centers and into suburbs to get away from niggers and spics moving in. gentrification is the reverse of that process.
- you are wrong

[clay]

fire the thousands of border control agents, shutter ICE, end welfare and social security and return the taxpayers their money

you're being pedantic, but i believe welfare has its uses. it, along with other services, are just being overused.

i dont have a problem with blood transfusions, im not a jehovas witness or whoever. but i can only give so much. if people start coming up to me expecting 2 liters of blood a day, i will eventually die. that's what is happening to our government

[maks]

you're being pedantic, but i believe welfare has its uses. it, along with other services, are just being overused.

i dont have a problem with blood transfusions, im not a jehovas witness or whoever. but i can only give so much. if people start coming up to me expecting 2 liters of blood a day, i will eventually die. that's what is happening to our government

I am absolutely not being pedantic. Opening the borders is as easy as firing the people who enforce the borders. End ICE, and end the TSA while we're at it, the last thing this country needs is more motherfucking enforcement agencies.

[clay]

the border is a method of security and policing one specific aspect of our country. if you open the borders, you might as well abolish all form of police and law enforcement

[maks]

as for welfare, it either exists and we end up with stevey, or you shut it down and stevey dies. I am in favor of stevey dying.

[maks]

the border is a method of security and policing one specific aspect of our country. if you open the borders, you might as well abolish all form of police and law enforcement

now you're speaking my language.

[clay]

as for welfare, it either exists and we end up with stevey, or you shut it down and stevey dies. I am in favor of stevey dying.

there are going to be things that you have to accept. one of them is that stevey is cared about by someone. if that someone were you or your family, you would want a social net to catch him before he fell too. but my net only extends to the USA. mexico can have a net, britain can have a net. mine shouldnt be expanding to all sorts of faggots

[maks]

there are going to be things that you have to accept. one of them is that stevey is cared about by someone. if that someone were you or your family, you would want a social net to catch him before he fell too. but my net only extends to the USA. mexico can have a net, britain can have a net. mine shouldnt be expanding to all sorts of faggots

if someone cares about stevey let them feed him.

[maks]

my dog can't take care of herself, and I care about her, know what I do? help her apply for welfare. just kidding, I fucking buy dog food.

[clay]

part of being in a society is helping less fortunate members of that society. it's one of the hallmarks of what it is considered to be an american.

i will take care of stevey, i will not take care of juanita who just arrived here with her 4 kids because she doesn't like honduras.

i'd also like to point out that hispanic immigrants abuse their children at much higher rates. physically and sexually

[maks]

some rich asshole you never met takes your money you earned out of your check before you even see it so he can spend it on whatever the fuck he wants which includes lazy fucks who've never worked an hour in their lives, and if you don't play ball they have an entire army of guys in blue suits who will come take the rest of your shit and throw you in a box for a few years with guys who will rape your ass

and you're worried about the fucking mexis? priorities, man.

[juji]

Clay's facts:

Doesn't believe the rounding numbers. https://www.factmonster.com/math/numbers/rounding-numbers-rules-examples-fractions-sums
Doesn't believe the hippies ended with the end of the draft and the Vietnam War.
Doesn't believe the coca leaves are main ingredients to produce cocaine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tlwW2DKzlc
Doesn't believe the rape was caused when women wore more sexier what they wanted due to feminist movement in 70's.
Doesn't believe the serial killers. Clay claims serial killers do not exist.
Doesn't believe the correct word like "afro-americans", "white hispanics" or "non-white hispanics" for non-white people to call, he refers them as "spics" and "niggers", he doesn't know about racism in housing. Clay is officially a racist.

[juji]

I love how they used image of FreeBSD mascot as product

https://i.imgur.com/bRudS6L.png

[clay]

you dont round years.
altamont.
sugar + water isnt coca cola.
i wasnt even aware that you were arguing this. you're a creepy dude.
still not sure what you're trying to say about serial killers.
elezark realized that he doesnt know what gentrification is, so he calls me racist. classic argument.

[juji]

Ugh, what's hard to explain someone who is powerful close minded racist doesn't understand the rapists are uneducated men that cannot control themselves and he called me creepy dude who could identify some men as rapists?

[juji]

Anyway Clay has serious issues since he gets mad for something which is none of his business, Tim told me when he gets mad for no reason.